When creating an object then transforming/adjusting the nodes, I sometimes need to keep the object transparent as I am making the nodes. I need to see the object in the layer below to match up the edges. In older versions of InDesign I could do this, but in CS5 the setting is so that the object becomes opaque while you are moving the nodes. I cannot see the object below when I need to. Is there a way to adjust the settings so it does not do this?
Say some one sent me a logo that was scanned in from a business card and they want me to make it high res for them. I would put the low res logo on layer 1. On layer two, I would create a box and changed the opacity to 40% then I would use the direct selection tool to grab a node and move it. I need to to keep the box at 40% transparency as I move the node so that I can match up the angle/edge with an angle/edge with the logo on layer 1.
In CS2-CS4, the box always remained transparent while I was moving the node. But, ever since I was upgraded to CS5, when I mode the node, the box becomes solid (100% transparency) as I am moving the node. When I place the node where I want it, the box returns to 40% transparency.
But, since I am flying blind while moving the node now, I cannot accurately match up the edges like I used to.
I cannot find a setting in preferences to return it to the way I need it.
I don't see here what you are describing. What are your settings for Live Screen Drawing (Generl tab of the Preferences)? I don't think that should matter, but it might.
Have you tried resetting the prefs? See Replace Your Preferences
Live Screen Drawing is set to immediate.
I don't want to reset all the preferences because I have things like spelling, units and windows set up a certain way. But, this problem has also been occuring ever since the program was installed before I adjusted anything. I can try it nothing else helps when I am not as swamped.
The transparency also goes away when I move the whole box with the normal move selction tool (solid black arrow icon).
What happens when you create a box, make that object 40% transparent and you grab the direct selection tool (white arrow icon), and grab a corner of that box and try to move it? Does the box stays transparent while you are moving that corner?
And when you move the whole box with the move (selction tool) tool, does it stay transparent as you are moving it?
It seemed to me that Adobe changed something with the CS5 version....I am hoping that it is just something as easy as unclicking something in preferences.
It is now just moving the frame line but not the transparent box until I let go of the node. It is better than not seeing anything at all, but not what I was looking for.
Thanks for your help though, you've spent a lot of time on it and I appreciate it.
*sigh* things like this just make me want to go back to CS4.
It is not a delay.
I wish I could show you a video of what I can do at home on CS4 and what I cannot do at work on CS5.
If you just create a box with a solid color in it (like blue), make it 40% transparency, and then move it. As you are in the process of moving it, in my CS5, it becomes a solid blue and then transparent again when you stop moving it. In CS4, it stays transparent as you are moving it. Same thing goes with moving the nodes on the corner of the box. Like if I wanted to move the top right node down to make a more triangular shape. As I am moving that node, the whole object turns solid until I let go of the node in CS5 not in CS4.
I can still see the lines of the object I am moving, but I can no longer see the layer below the object.
Right. With Live Screen Drawing set to immediate, you lose the transparency while transforming or moving an object, but if you set it to delayed the result is identical to what happens in CS4, at least it is here.
Yes, that's correct.
And here, in CS4, the line of the frame also moves without the fill, unless you wait a moment befor making the move, in which case the frame goes solid. This is identical to the Delayed setting in CS5 and later.
Are you sure you see something different in CS4?
I am positive. I have been using InDesign (CS2-CS5) for 6 years and never had this issue before. I use CS4 at home several times a week. I will take screen shots of both versions and post them tonight.
Sorry at home I have CS3 (not CS4 – that’s what I used to have at work before the upgrade). The menus are different on CS3, it does not have the delay setting under interface and I do not see it anywhere else. So, I cannot compare settings between the two versions. I am guessing that the setting was an addition in later versions?
I think my computer had too much going on and may have been lagging which was delaying the changes even more so - messing up what I was trying to view. Because, I tried changing the setting to delayed again, closed InDesign and all my other programs, and rebooted my computer. When I opened InDesign again, it seemed to behaving closer to what I was looking for.
It still seems to be a bit different though, because when I move the boxes in CS3, here at home now, it keeps the transparency. Which it does not do in CS5 even with it set to delayed. Shrug
Again, thank you so much for looking into this for me. You spend more time on it than I was expecting.
Live screen drawing was introduced in CS5.
I don't see any difference here between the behaviors moving or transforming objects between CS3, CS4 and later versions when Live Screen Drawing is set to delayed. As far as I know what you are describing -- live movement of the transparent fill -- was never a feature in ID.