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Stutter, jitter, whatever.

May 23, 2012 10:41 AM

Tags: #premiere #canon #stutter #h264 #fcp #quicktime #jitter #.mov #5dii


The real title of this post should be: "dang that FCP/h.264/5DII baloney!".

 

After having much trouble on FCP and being unable to resolve it, I've dusted off my copy of CS5 and started to learn it. Not transcoding is SWEET.

 

I'm aware some of this stuff I'm asking about has been talked to death, but I did look hard and am

not finding the specific solution I need.

 

I thought I knew this stuff, for the most part.

I've certainly done it successfully in the past, however, that was on a tower, FCP 7,

in an XDCAM network TV environment.

 

Now, using my own laptop and FCP 6.0.6 I am having the very devil of a time,

and FAILING utterly to understand the whys.

 

With the 5DII shooting 29.97, every transcode tool and flavor except one has failed dramatically to

produce first rate results when using FCP. Even the one that works is not perfect.

 

I've got a bad case of the jitters.

 

Some of the transcodes produce files that jitter.

Some produce files that play fine in the FCP Viewer but jitter once they are on the timeline.

Rendering just produces jittery rendered files.  The same holds true for CS5.

 

Tried Streamclip after trying Log and Transfer, or as I like to call it, shiftapple8.

 

The best FCP results have been with Prores 422HQ capture through shiftapple8 and XDCAM 1080P 30 VBR.

 

Even that is unsatisfactory in some CU pans.

 

So, using small words so I can understand, (pretend you're talking to your cat) could someone be so kind, please, as to provide a 'recipe'?

 

As in:

 

Set your CS5 project up like this. Capture, project, timeline, all you consider critical.

Why always helps.

 

Transcode like this. Ditto.

 

The Mac is a 1st gen 17" unibody, maxed, 4g RAM, the drive is a Sonnet F2 twin ESATA to Expresscard34.

But while that makes a difference in edit and playback, it should not make a difference in rendered output.

right?

 

May the thoughput be with you.

 

And what is up with this text editor!?

 
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    May 23, 2012 9:13 AM   in reply to abekutter

    Eeesh!  That's hard to read.

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:24 AM   in reply to abekutter

    Dont know what goofed.

     

    Make sure you log into the forum through your browser to post and read.  Don't use e-mail or other external applications.  Also, don't copy/paste your post from another app, like Word or some other text editor.  Type it directly into the response window in the browser.

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:27 AM   in reply to abekutter

    1) Copy the entire contents of the SD card to the hard drive using Finder.  (Do NOT use any FCP media, use only the original from the card.)

    2) Open Premiere Pro and start a new project.  (Hit Cancel when the sequence dialog pops up.)

    3) Use the Media Browser to navigate to the 5D folder you just copied and use that to import the clips you want.

    4) Take a clip and drag it down to the New Item icon at the bottom of the Project pane.  That will create a new sequence that exactly matches your footage.

    5) Edit away.

    6) Export is trickier because there are variables that will alter with your export needs.

     
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    May 23, 2012 10:41 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Jim Simon wrote:

     

    Eeesh!  That's hard to read.

    Fixed.

     
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    May 23, 2012 11:23 AM   in reply to abekutter

    >Set your CS5 project up like this

     

    Here is a picture... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/872666

     
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    May 23, 2012 11:53 AM   in reply to abekutter

    How does it look inside of PP?

     
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    May 23, 2012 3:09 PM   in reply to abekutter

    OK then.

     

    Post the specifics of the clips, and then post the specifics of the sequence they're in.

     
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    May 23, 2012 5:02 PM   in reply to abekutter

    The clip format per FCP is:

     

    Take FCP entirely out of the loop.  Do not start it at all for any of this.  Do not use any media that has ever been touched by FCP.  Use Premiere Pro only.

     
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    May 23, 2012 5:04 PM   in reply to abekutter

    The timeline, getting properties off the project window:

     

    1920 x 1080

    00;00;30;00, 29.97 fps

    48000 Hz - Mono

     

    That part confuses me.

     
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    May 24, 2012 8:38 AM   in reply to abekutter

    OK.

     

    Your sequence and your media are different.  That suggests you did not perform step 4 from post 5.  Back up and do it that way.

     
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    May 24, 2012 3:07 PM   in reply to abekutter

    You mean the FCP sequence, right?

     

    No.  Again, leave that closed.  Forget about it.  Uninstall it even.  From now on, FCP does not exist.

     

    I meant the Premiere Pro sequence.  It doesn't exactly match your media.  So go back to post 5 and make sure you're performing step 4.

     

     

    it recognizes when dropped frames occur on export, backs up, and stitches up the gap. Right? Wrong?

     

    Wrong.  There is no such thing as a "dropped frame" during an export from Premiere Pro or AME.  A print to tape maybe, which runs in real time.  But that's not what you're doing here.  Exporting takes all the time it needs, processing every frame in turn, never skipping any.

     
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    May 30, 2012 4:34 PM   in reply to abekutter

    Apple, please.

     

    I couldn't agree more.

     

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