In AI 5.5 I could option-drag parts of a graph (by clicking the little blue square marker in the Layer-palette) into a new layer without having to ungroup the graph. In AI 6, it is not possible.
I used this feature when I wanted a drop shadow on part of the graph, here I have a graphic style on the layer "Skygge" which automatically was applied to objects I dragged into that layer.
Obviously you have expanded the graph. Otherwise it would not have been possible to see the parts in the layer panel. Only thing you could do is select the parts with the group (or direct) select tool and then copy them and paste again.
No, the graph was not expanded. In 5.5 and earlier versions it was possible to use the Direct arrow tool and option-drag parts of a graph into a new layer. This objects were of course no longer a part of the group. I have used this teqnique for several years and miss it much in AI6.
I'm going to agree with Monika... I see no difference between CS5.5 and CS6. You must have expanded the graph.. or at least ungrouped it (which expands it) if you were using hte Layers Panel to copy things.
You can use the Direct Sleection tool, on the artboard, to copy/duplicate parts of the graph. You simply can't do it via the Layers panel if the graph is still "lve".
I don't know what Monika saw in CS 5 but she must have ungrouped the graph by accident
here is a screen shot of a chart in CS as it is when first generated
If I ungroup it which make it no longer a live Graph
I gaet what the op shows,
Same exact behavior in CS 6 nothing has been done to the Graph feature though it is hopeful that it might be next time.
You can file a bug report but Adobe engineers will not be able to reproduce it as you describe.
You either accidentallyor unconscously ungroup the graph o0therwise you cannot rearrange the order of the groups within the graaph group.
You can move elements of the graph with the direct select tool but if you access the data and make a change that change an all the moved elements will reflect what is in the data and will return to those coordinates.
They retain any new strokes or effects but the data recorded is always reflected as per the entered data when you click the apply button until you break the group. As the Op clearly is showing in their screenshot.
I don't know what kind of problem Wade has with people in general, but he seems to have a lot of fun in discrediting them.
What I saw is this:
I am not discredting anyone just saying that you have accidentally ungrouped the object which is what you are doing when you direct select the object within the graph and move it outside the group
Here see for yourself. I seelcted the red plot element oj the canvas and I moved it to the only place it can be moved above the graph. Now of course when I select the graph it is no longer part of the graph only the plot points sre which I did not move.
If I then go bnack to the graphs data what i does is makes a new copy of from the data all you do my dragging the element outside the group ius to essentially make a copy of it that is not linked to the data
You accidentally ungrouped it.
And let's get something straight when someone points out that i made a mistake i don't accused them of ill will of anykind I accept my error
and thank the other user for pointing it out, that is how we learn and that is what the forum is about learning we all learn.
So you might want to apologize for falsely accusing me of something did not do or intend to do.
No, I didn't ungroup it. Not even accidentally. I'm in full possession of all my senses.
And nobody here is talking about moving anything out of a group, but about copying.
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Would you just ry it for yourself?
In Cs 6 the work around would be to amke a new layer select the elements from the graph than paste in place in the new layer.
Or if you wan it in the same layer as the graph then copy paste in place .
I don't think this is a bug although some users might want this to work that wy.
In case anyone is interested it appears that this is a change in the layers panel and it may have gotten by the beta testers because they simply do not work that way.
I have reason to believe that this his so.
This is the specific file I use this feature on. Se link. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13526846/2011-12-Partibarometer.ai
I first delete the content in "skygge" layer. I then use the direct selection tool and only select the colored lines in the graph, then option drag in the layerpalette to the "skygge" layer. They then get the correct graphic style. When I update the graph next month, I delete the content in "skygge" (shadow) layer and repeat the process. Have worked like a dream for many years, but not with AI6.
As I wrote when you select the lines copy Command or Control C select the new layer in the layers panel comman or control Shift V to paste in place. Your done and you have the very same result with the same effort.
Try it you will see.
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