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CS 6 Video Editing System

May 28, 2012 8:34 AM

Tags: #hardware #premiere #cs6 #build

Hi All,

 

The advice on selecting hardware for video editing in CS 6 on this forum is excellent. Many thanks to all those who have taken the time to post!

 

Although I am a little overwhelmed, I have tried to incorporate as much of the advice as possible and check the hardware reviews. I am relatively new to video editing and the type of work I will need to do is HD, but primarily for the internet or DVD.

 

I would appreciate it if anyone could take a look at the proposed build from AVA which costs about $2665 plus shipping.

 

COOLER MASTER, HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1) Mid-Tower Case, ATX, No PSU, SECC/Plastic

 

THERMALTAKE, Toughpower™ Grand 850W Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 80 PLUS® Gold, 24-pin ATX12V V2.3 EPS12V V2.92, 6x 8/6-pin PCIe, SLI/CrossFireX Certified

 

ASUS, Rampage IV Gene, LGA2011, Intel® X79, DDR3-2400 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2+1*, SATA 6Gb/s /4, 3Gb/s /3, USB 3.0 /4, HDA, GbLAN, mATX, Retail

 

INTEL, Core i7-3820 Quad-Core, 3.6 - 3.8GHz TB, LGA2011, 10MB L3 Cache, HT EM64T EIST VT-x VT-d XD, 32nm, 130W, Retail

 

INTEL, RTS2011LC CPU Liquid Cooling System, Socket LGA2011/1155/1156/1366, Retail

ARCTIC SILVER, Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound, Polysynthetic Silver, Electrically Non-Conductive

 

G SKILL, 32GB (4 x 8GB) Ripjaws Z PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL10 (10-10-10-30) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC

 

EVGA, GeForce® GTX 670 Superclocked 967MHz, 4GB GDDR5 6008MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI + HDMI + DP, OEM

 

WESTERN DIGITAL, 500GB WD VelociRaptor®, SATA 6 Gb/s, 10000 RPM, 64MB cache

 

(3X) SEAGATE, 2TB Barracuda®, SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB cache

RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives

 

SONY, AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM

 

LG ELECTRONICS, WH12LS39 Black 12x/16x/48x BD/DVD/CD Blu-ray Disc™ Burner, SATA, w/ M-Disc, OEM

 

XIGMATEK, 75 in 1 Card Reader, Black/Silver 3.5" Bay, USB

 

MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM

 

WARRANTY, Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)

 

I would very much appreciate it if anyone had any comments or advice to share or let me know if I have missed anything or would be better off swapping out a component.

 

Thank you!

2380 Views   21 Replies   Latest reply: VideoShui, Jun 4, 2012 8:16 AM
 
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  • Harm Millaard
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    1. Harm Millaard,
    May 28, 2012 8:59 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    Looks good, but I would look for a better PSU. Thermaltake does not have the best reputation. Corsair, Seasonic and Silverstone are probably better. And consider the 932 HAF case instead of the 912.

     

    For other ideas, look here: Adobe Forums: Planning / building a new system. Part 1

     
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    May 28, 2012 9:12 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    Thank you for the advice Harm.

     

    They have a CORSAIR AX850 Gold Power Supply available.

     

    Is it better if I use the same tower manufacturer?

     
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    May 28, 2012 9:26 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    Read the link I gave above and go to the Planning page. Then go through the different panels to read my considerations. It may give you ideas. The project is still underway because I'm not in a hurry and hope for some new product introductions and price decreases, but it may be informative.

     
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    May 28, 2012 9:41 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    You buy a case based on the features you need... you do NOT need to have case and power supply with the same name

     
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    May 28, 2012 10:38 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    Thank you both for you feedback.

     
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    May 31, 2012 8:54 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    The links Harm provided influenced the original build, but on his advice, I re-read them and decided to alter it and bit.

     

    If I swap out the ASUS Rampage for the Deluxe model, replace the Velciraptor with a Seagate 2TB, and the water cooling with a COOLER MASTER, Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (rated Gold by hardwaresecrets), then I can upgrade to the larger COOLER MASTER, HAF 932 Advanced and keep the price about the same.

     

    Given my projected video editing demands, it doesn't seem like the ASUS Rampage MB offers much more than the ASUS Deluxe MB and the latter contains BT and wireless.

     

    Since I do not intend to OC, there doesn't seem to be a great need for liquid cooling, especially with the larger tower case. At any rate, it does feel better not put "liquid" and "computer" in the same sentence!

     

    The Corsair AX850 Gold power supply does indeed seem to be a better choice.

     

    There doesn't seem to a concensus in the all the discussions relating to using a SSD vs a hard drive for the boot disk. However, since boot speed is not an issue for me I don't need an SSD and the Velociraptor seems to a unnessary expense. While I don't need 2TB for the boot drive, they are not much more than the 1TB.

     

    The only question remaining is filtering the air. This machine will be in a dusty (but not dirty) environment. I read Harm's thoughts on air filtering provide in his link, but don't want to go the custom route. These aftermarket filters look nice http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11729/ffi-57/DEMCiflex_Cooler_Master _HAF_932_Magnetic_Dust_Fan_Filter_Set_-_4_Piece.html, but for the cost, I'd rather put another $50-60 into the case and get one with good filtering.

     

    Does anyone have experience with a stock Full Tower with complete built-in filters they have actually used in a dusty environment they would be willing to share?

     

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    May 31, 2012 9:19 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    That is exactly the company I ordered the dust filters from (DemciFlex). They are underway from South Africa and as soon as I recieve them I will be posting images and tell you my opinion. The reason I went for these is that we have two cats, one of them a Maine Coon but very small for the race, and with all the hairs they lose,...

     
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    May 31, 2012 10:07 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    Our cat is about average at 40 pounds, but at least she does not shed a lot

     

    http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith/FLOWER.JPG

     
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    May 31, 2012 12:47 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    Yes, the filters look well made. Will be interested in your opinion on them.

     

    Two cats! Do they get along?

     
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    May 31, 2012 12:49 PM   in reply to John T Smith
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    40 Pounds! What is that, a wild cat? It actually looks like a statue.

     
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    May 31, 2012 12:53 PM   in reply to VideoShui
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    African Serval (but born in the US) who loves my wife and tolerates me 'cause I can open the 'fridge door to get out her raw food

     

    As far as she is concerned, SHE owns the house and we live to serve

     

    More pics at http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

     
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  • Harm Millaard
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    May 31, 2012 12:59 PM   in reply to VideoShui
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    Look here: https://vimeo.com/1954849

     
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    Jun 1, 2012 6:19 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    That has got to be the best video editing I have ever seen in an internet cat video!

     
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    Jun 1, 2012 6:21 AM   in reply to John T Smith
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    What do you say to 40 pounds of muscle, teeth and claws that wants you to open the fridge?

     

    "Will Madame be having the steak or chicken tonight?"

     
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    We brought her home when she was 4 weeks old, so her "jungle" is not very wild... but she is a bit spoiled, so wants what she wants when SHE wants it

     

    But, due to early training, she will "talk" to me, but I can sit with her while she has her daily raw chicken leg meals and she is not aggressive

     
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    Jun 2, 2012 5:14 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    I can recommend Fractal design cases very quiet and airfilters incuded.

    http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=66

     
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    Jun 2, 2012 9:29 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    Love this video!

     
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    Jun 3, 2012 3:13 PM   in reply to Luc van Vliet
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    That looks like a very nice, and sturdy, case. It is available from the builder so thank you for the suggestion!

     
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    Jun 3, 2012 3:25 PM   in reply to VideoShui
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    The Fractal Case solves the final major problem, but a few recent posts have called the choice of hard drives into question.

     

    Right now I am considering replacing the 4 Seagate Barracuda 2TB with 4 Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB. It is a shame to give up 50% capacity, but I'd rather have a more reliable system since I don't have much affinity with computer hardware maintenance and trouble shooting.

     

    With reliability in mind, I am also considering dropping the CD R/W since that capability is built into the Blueray device. I simply left it in the configuration since it was only about $20-30. Removing it eliminates one potential failure point.

     

    Likewise, the 75 in 1 card reader is only $15-20 but these units don't seem to be terribly reliable based on the reviews. Having it in the system reduces the clutter on the desk, but I suppose an external one would work well enough. Removing it from the build eliminates another potential failure point.

     

    Does anyone have an opinion on the hard drives or the two mentioned accessories?

     

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    Jun 4, 2012 4:41 AM   in reply to VideoShui
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    VideoShui,

     

    Regarding drives, larger is better, but don't buy a model that Newegg ratings show to be a lemon; for example, Seagate's ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 64MB cache 1yr wtty drive selling for $120 this morning has horrible user feedback whereas the ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 64MB drive has much improved user feedback and a 5yr wtty from Seagate.

     

    Regarding accessories: CD R/W is your call; I would not consider that a "failure point". Now for the 75 in 1 reader, I personally prefer the external devices so that I can plug in my memory sticks/cards with the device unpowered (not plugged into the PC) and then plug in the USB cable. With any built-in reader you are sliding your card into a powered device which does not seem as gentle. I always turns cameras off too before loading or removing memory cards as well.

     

    Regards,

     

    Jim

     
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    Jun 4, 2012 8:16 AM   in reply to JEShort01
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    Thank you for the suggestions Jim. The information on the Seagate drives is helpful, I will check the models offered.

     

    I did not know that about the un-powered vs. powered device relating to the storage media. I will certainly drop it from the system and get an external one.

     
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