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Alternate layouts, facing pages,single pages, but not both?

Jun 5, 2012 3:06 AM

Tags: #dps #pages #alternate #layouts #facing

Hi all, I have a question, I want to work on a print mag  layout and an iPad and iPhone layout all under the 'alternate layout' umbrella. So is it possible to have my print magazine article with facing pages as one layout, and then have an iPad single pages layout, along with an iPhone single pages layout open?

 

 

Or does alternate layouts simple work in either facing pages or single pages for an entire project?

 
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    Jun 5, 2012 8:55 AM   in reply to Steve Kelly

    Alternate layouts share document settings with the main layout, including your ruler settings and as far as I can tell facing pages. You should have a separate InDesign document for your print layout and digital layouts.

     

    One key reason: presuambly you want to work in points and picas for your print layout, and you should work in pixels for the digital layout. Otherwise you'll get rounding oddities when the points are converted to pixels, and elements may shift slightly in your layout when you create the folio.

     

    Neil

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 11:46 AM   in reply to Neil Enns - Adobe

    Neil, I thought Adobe highlighted alternate layout to have multiple versions -- for different devices and printing -- all in a single InDesign file. Are you now saying that an InDesign user should not keep all layouts in the same file and not use that feature of CS 6?

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 12:59 PM   in reply to Michael_OSP

    Alternate layouts aren't intended to combine print and digital in one file. Our recommended workflow is to have a print edition InDesign document, and then use alternate layouts in a separate InDesign file to handle all the digital devices you want to support.

     

    Neil

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 1:06 PM   in reply to Neil Enns - Adobe

    Linked Content would be a great CS6 feature for manage content in different

    ID docs.

     

    Haeme Ulrich

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 1:35 PM   in reply to Neil Enns - Adobe

    Neil, you may want to find out who is responsible for this on the Adobe site and have them take it down because it is the opposite of what you are saying:

     

    http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign.html (video from Terry White, Worldwide Design Evangelist)

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 2:02 PM   in reply to Michael_OSP

    At 1:02 of the video you can see Terry's document structure. He's working purely with digital editions in the InDesign document: iPad V, iPad H, and Galaxy Tab V. He doesn't mention anywhere that you should include both print and digital in the same file.

     

    Neil

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 2:46 PM   in reply to Neil Enns - Adobe

    Thanks Neil. I do see that in the video and I was reading more, like Steve suggests, into the capabilities. And like Steve I haven't seen at the moment any of the issues you raised but I will try to not mix the print & digital layouts in the same file.

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 3:50 PM   in reply to Michael_OSP

    I didn't think there was any issue with using points/picas and then just publishing to DPS, but it does result in rounding errors (fractions of a pixel when the math is done) that can cause overlays to jump around in your final output when users interact with them. It's not common, but it does happen.

     

    Stick with pixels and you'll be much happier.

     

    Neil

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 4:56 PM   in reply to Neil Enns - Adobe

    Hi Neil,

     

    Perhaps you can help with this discussion (http://forums.adobe.com/message/4443801#4443801) which received no replies.

     

    I cannot specify font sizes in anything other than points (CS6, no trouble in CS5.5). Perhaps it's something to do with the same size font on iPad 2 and iPad 3 but different pixel dimensions, but your above comment concerns me.

     

    CS55.jpgCS6.jpg

     

     

    Thanks in advance for any help.

     

    Simon.

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 5:01 PM   in reply to Angusdog

    Sorry, I don't know what happened to the option of specifying font sizes in dimensions other than points. That's really unrelated to DPS, however.

     

    My comment about pixels vs. points is specifically about the units used for the rulers, and objects positioned on the page.

     

    Neil

     
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