Hi all, I have a question, I want to work on a print mag layout and an iPad and iPhone layout all under the 'alternate layout' umbrella. So is it possible to have my print magazine article with facing pages as one layout, and then have an iPad single pages layout, along with an iPhone single pages layout open?
Or does alternate layouts simple work in either facing pages or single pages for an entire project?
Alternate layouts share document settings with the main layout, including your ruler settings and as far as I can tell facing pages. You should have a separate InDesign document for your print layout and digital layouts.
One key reason: presuambly you want to work in points and picas for your print layout, and you should work in pixels for the digital layout. Otherwise you'll get rounding oddities when the points are converted to pixels, and elements may shift slightly in your layout when you create the folio.
Thanks for the response Neil, I just needed confirmation. Although I find that i don't really get any of the issues you mention at the moment, as everything is generally tweaked when i transpose a layout to ipad.
I think I was expecting this to be a nice system for keeping an entire issue of a magazine in one place, print, ipad and iphone, but I wil just have to get used to having the print version as a completely seperate entity. Being a user who has to work accross all these aspects I wonder if it might be something the powers that be might look at for the future.
Neil, I thought Adobe highlighted alternate layout to have multiple versions -- for different devices and printing -- all in a single InDesign file. Are you now saying that an InDesign user should not keep all layouts in the same file and not use that feature of CS 6?
Well I have to agree with you, but it's not a question of should, you simply can't keep a normal print doc that uses facing pages in the same file as one that doesn't. I might even suggest that CS6 doesn't actually do what it say on the tin. Also when i think about Neil's answer to my question, his argument would pertain to any print doc I want to translate to digital, not just a facing pages doc.
Alternate layouts aren't intended to combine print and digital in one file. Our recommended workflow is to have a print edition InDesign document, and then use alternate layouts in a separate InDesign file to handle all the digital devices you want to support.
Neil, you may want to find out who is responsible for this on the Adobe site and have them take it down because it is the opposite of what you are saying:
http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign.html (video from Terry White, Worldwide Design Evangelist)
At 1:02 of the video you can see Terry's document structure. He's working purely with digital editions in the InDesign document: iPad V, iPad H, and Galaxy Tab V. He doesn't mention anywhere that you should include both print and digital in the same file.
Well I'm sure we all read a lot more into the capabilities of this new feature than were actually available, and I would suggest that is because there are designers like myself who would find it very useful. I think it would be a great idea for a file to include the facility to move from print to digital in the most efficient way possible, ie one file. After all that's why I've used Abobe all these years.
Thanks for your responses Neil
Thanks Neil. I do see that in the video and I was reading more, like Steve suggests, into the capabilities. And like Steve I haven't seen at the moment any of the issues you raised but I will try to not mix the print & digital layouts in the same file.
I didn't think there was any issue with using points/picas and then just publishing to DPS, but it does result in rounding errors (fractions of a pixel when the math is done) that can cause overlays to jump around in your final output when users interact with them. It's not common, but it does happen.
Stick with pixels and you'll be much happier.
Perhaps you can help with this discussion (http://forums.adobe.com/message/4443801#4443801) which received no replies.
I cannot specify font sizes in anything other than points (CS6, no trouble in CS5.5). Perhaps it's something to do with the same size font on iPad 2 and iPad 3 but different pixel dimensions, but your above comment concerns me.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Sorry, I don't know what happened to the option of specifying font sizes in dimensions other than points. That's really unrelated to DPS, however.
My comment about pixels vs. points is specifically about the units used for the rulers, and objects positioned on the page.