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Migrating Plugins from CS4 to CS6

Jun 4, 2012 2:15 AM

I just purchased CS6 and noticed that some of the 3rd party filters I had in CS4 have not been migrated over to CS4.  The specific plugins I'm concerned about are Noiseware Professional and Alienskins, both of which I am able to access in CS4's filter drop down menu. 

 

Anyone have any tips for me?

 

Jesse

 
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    Jun 4, 2012 3:12 AM   in reply to montesjesse

    Jesse,

     

    In a nutshell, DON'T !

     

    I just typed this in a different thread (emphasis added):

     

    Oh, but make absolutely certain that you did not copy over ANY plug-ins from CS5 or earlier to CS6, especially if you're on a Mac.  That will break CS6 in ways that will prevent you from saving in many formats.  Do not point CS6 to an old folder containing such older plug-ins and do not set that folder as "Additional Plug-Ins folder."  That is a HUGE no-no!

     

    Do not copy or install any Adobe plug-ins at all, they are already built-in and hidden in CS6.  Install only fresh, updated plug-ins from 3rd party vendors and only through their installers.

     
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    Jun 4, 2012 3:14 AM   in reply to montesjesse

    montesjesse wrote:

     

    I… noticed that some of the 3rd party filters I had in CS4 have not been migrated over to CS4…

     

     

    No, they weren't supposed to.    See above.

     
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    Jun 4, 2012 9:33 PM   in reply to station_two

    Let's assume I did.  Mwaaaaa...  Can I uninstall CS6 and reinstall it "clean" somehow?

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 10:37 AM   in reply to b.d.bop

    In Photoshop, to to Edit>Preferences>Plugins  you can un-select the additional Plugins folder, or go to the location of that folder and remove the contents until you are able to install newly provided plugins from the vendor. Also remove any plugins you may have copied to a plugins folder. Each version of Photoshop will come with it's own version of included plugins. You should not copy these from version to version or you will have duplicate plugins with the same name, and it will cause issues. If you have any 3rd party plugins, check with the vendor to see if they provide new versions for CS6, and use those.

     

    Pattie

     

    See this FAQ, it may be helpful:

     

    FAQ: How do I install my favorite plugins to Photoshop CS6?

     
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    Jun 7, 2012 7:56 PM   in reply to station_two

    Adobe failed to make it clear that something different would happen in CS6, if plugins were moved around as

    they have been in the past. What else was the check box for directing photoshop to a additional plug-ins folders

    telling us?.

     

    If it was written somewhere I did not see it, and I don't have the time to read the fine print of every application

    I install on my computer, if I did that, I would not get any work done. Sorry, I know someone put a lot of work

    into writing all of that fine print stuff.

     

    Adobe knew this was different, and would cause complications for users, but let it happen. All they give us

    for explanation is this from Patti (no offense meant Patti, its not you, you only work at Adobe) 

     

    "You should not copy these from version to version or you will have duplicate plugins with the same name, and it will cause issues."

     

    That just says it all. and we get help with the additional plugins folder, "you can un-select it". This says as much as "below"

    where its says CS5 plugins should work fine in CS6.

     

    "See this FAQ, it may be helpful:

     

    FAQ: How do I install my favorite plugins to Photoshop CS6?"

     

     

     

    Adobe, Adobe, Adobe, you are much to big, to act so small...

                                             

    Jim

     
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    Jun 7, 2012 8:07 PM   in reply to applesbest

    It has never been acceptable to move Adobe plugins from one version to the next.  In the past the old version may override the new one and you loose benefits of the upgrade.

     

    With CS6 moving plugins from old version becomes an obvious flaw.

     

    THis does NOT include 3rd party plugins, which should not be moved, but new versions downloaded from web.  And they may be compatable with CS6.  This is were I think you are misreading the message.

     
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    Jun 7, 2012 8:16 PM   in reply to applesbest

    As Curt said, The idea is that with each version, Photoshop will install the new versions of the included plugins. Copying them from the old version causes duplication of file names. The thought with the separated directories is that if Adobe plugins live in a different place, it will be clear which ones you installed from 3rd parties and that would make it easier for you to determine which ones to copy or get new versions of  from the vendors if you upgrade to a newer version. The primary issue that duplicating the plugins by copying them from or pointing to a previous version, results in file issues that are actually a Mac problem rather than a Photoshop issue.

     
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    Jun 7, 2012 8:35 PM   in reply to applesbest

    applesbest wrote:

     

    …if plugins were moved around as they have been in the past…

     

    Hmmm…  Interesting statement, Jim.  I've been using Photoshop since version 5.x and upgraded each time a new version was released, skipping only 6.x, and it never even occurred to me to copy plug-ins from one version to another.

     

    Guess I have this inborn fear of "migrating" and "cloning" anything. 

     
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    Jun 7, 2012 10:02 PM   in reply to Pattie F

    I can see where it is not a great practice to be moving plugins vs reinstalling, that does not excuse Adobe from making it more clear.

     

    In fact I used CS6 beta from the time it came out, with the same plugins, and never had a problem,  I don't move Adobe plugins as

    not many even concern me. It would be like using an old 3rd party plugin instead of a new one you have.

     

    There was something different because as soon as I loaded CS6 the final version I could not save anything with perdictable

    results.

     

    Also your right Curt I did not take the compatability issue with CS5 vs CS6 plugins correctly, (maybe), it was the loose usage of the

    wording that did not help the situation.

     

    I've been using PS since version 4 for anyone wishing to play tit for tat and have not had any issues that went beyond the

    performance of the (3rd party) plugin, in which case I would reinstall, that could happen any time, not necessarily a first install

    issue. Guess I've just been lucky to not have many plugin problems.

     

    Patti please explain to me how this is a Mac issue, If this is a Mac problem then I will report it to Apple but I want to know what

    I'm talking about. Any help would be appreciated.

     

    I have other editing App's and plugins, I have plenty of reading to do with all of them, there just is not that much time, I would

    love to know everything about PS, I would also love to know everything about all I have, but I have work to do, and not enough

    hours in the day. So forgive me if I have not taken in all of PS6, maybe when I retire.

     

    Jim

     
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