Hi, I have CS5.5 Mater Collection and want to purchase classroom in a book to learn how to do web design, which books will I need? I'm looking at Fireworks, Dreamweaver, Flash (professional, calalyst & builder) Do I need all these? I have heard that Flash is being fazed out, is this correct and if so what program is the alternative? Thanks
sumvmac wrote:
Hi, I have CS5.5 Mater Collection and want to purchase classroom in a book to learn how to do web design, which books will I need? I'm looking at Fireworks, Dreamweaver, Flash (professional, calalyst & builder) Do I need all these? I have heard that Flash is being fazed out, is this correct and if so what program is the alternative? Thanks
You should first ask yourself a few questions:
1. Are you looking at specializing in 1 field of web designing? There are tons of ways to create websites - Flash, HTML5, Dynamic (PHP/ .NET), Static (Simple HTML), etc...
2. What is your foundation? Do you have any prior knowledge/ experience in web designing?
3. Are you just looking at building rich media elements/ assets for web designing or create a full-scale website, bottom-up?
Once you're clear of what you want to do/ be, post your reply here. We'll be happy to guide you in the right direction.
Also, please note nothing happens in 5 minutes or overnight. Being a web designer is different from being a good web designer. And your learning never stops. It's a continual process. I have, rather most of us on this forum have been doing this for over a decade now and we're still learning. We're still trying to find that one right thing we want to specialize in!
Good luck with your self analysis!
Cheers..
Thanks so much for your comments. I am currently providing a graphic design service but want to be able to offer my clients web page design too. I don't know much about web design or what fields I want to get into, all I know is, I want to be able to design a web page for a business from scratch using my own design elements, (static and flash.) I thought I would start by teaching myself as I have experience with this and then decide whether I need further training. So basically I need to know which classroom in a books would give me the best start. I completely understand that design is something that is continually changing, especially the way we use technology to do it, I find I am constantly searching for different techniques on the internet and respect that web design would be developing even faster. I really appreciate your feedback and advice. Thanks again ![]()
Can you tell me the difference between HTML5 & Flash, I have been advised that it is best to now create elements using HTML5 but as I don't really know much about this, what does it mean and how is it done. Thanks
Can you tell me the difference between HTML5 & Flash, I have been advised that it is best to now create elements using HTML5 but as I don't really know much about this, what does it mean and how is it done. Thanks
There are way too many differences between HTML5 & Flash - we'd be discussing that all week or even all month long here.
But, Primarily, HTML5 runs off your browser natively without the need of any external plugins such as a Flash player unlike Flash. HTML5 is pure HTML code and is completely styled using CSS - Flash requires Adobe Flash or Flash Builder or something similar to create. HTML5 will work on mobile devices (such as iPad/ iPhone) whereas Flash wont. HTML5 exploits the feasibility of AJAX/ jQuery/ CSS to create awesome, lightweight websites.
In my opinion, HTML5 is the way-ahead...
1) Use graphics apps for images only. DO NOT use graphics apps as a shortcut to web page creation except for quick comps. The code is too rigid and unstable for use on real web sites.
2) Print/graphics design is nothing like designing for the web. Print graphics are static and unchanging. Web pages need to be flexible to work on various devices, viewports and browsers. Different rules apply.
3) Put Dreamweaver away until you've learned the fundaments of HTML & CSS code. This is required learning. Later as your skills improve, learn all you can about client-side (JavaScript) and server-side (php or asp) scripting as this is what separates amateurs from professionals.
Start Here: http://w3schools.com/
4) Unless you're a game developer, forget about Flash. For web sites, there's little future in Flash.
5) If you want to create custom web animations, look at Adobe Edge ~ HTML5, CSS3 & JQuery.
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/edge/
Best of luck,
Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
Web | Graphics | Print | Media Specialists
Thanks Sudarshan. Am I able to create a website using just Dreamweaver and Fireworks, if so, will they allow me to use HTML5 or do I need another program for this. At this stage, if I just got Fireworks and Dreamweaver classroom in a book, would that be sufficient enough to learn how to create a basic website? Thanks
sumvmac wrote:
Thanks Sudarshan. Am I able to create a website using just Dreamweaver and Fireworks, if so, will they allow me to use HTML5 or do I need another program for this. At this stage, if I just got Fireworks and Dreamweaver classroom in a book, would that be sufficient enough to learn how to create a basic website? Thanks
You definitely can create a website using DW and FW. You can code HTML5 with DW. These links should help you begin:
http://www.w3schools.com/html5/default.asp
Classroom in a book is okay to begin with. But, as you advance in your learning, you'll need to see it in action to get a better understanding. Browse HTML5 websites, read online tutorials - there are tons of resources. This should get you going. It's not very hard to code HTML5. You could see this site that I've done in HTML5: www.architectarchna.com
Don't hesitate to post any other questions you may have.. We're happy to help..
Cheers,
ST
Thanks again for your advice. I have plenty of reserach to start on. I have a discount to get some Adobe learning material which will expire soon so just want to grab it now. I'll get dreamweaver but do you think I should get fireworks too, is there anything else from Adobe you could suggest. I will use the online sites that you have all given me too. I am really starting from scratch so I understand I have alot to learn
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Typically I'd recommend the following:
You could also choose to buy the following if you're looking at doing an end-to-end design integration:
This should get you started first.
Cheers,
ST
So! I went to an Adobe User Group meeting last week and we talked about CS6 and specifically went over the new features that Dreamweaver and Fireworks will offer. This was fantastic because everything seems to be more user-friendly in CS6. For example, you can create an effect in Fireworks, and there's a CSS panel that will generate the code for you to then paste into Dreamweaver, and, upon previewing your site, will replay that effect for you! Just a heads up too, that Fireworks hasn't truly been "updated" until the CS6 version. Adobe purchased from Macromedia and made it "work correctly" for the CS5 release, but added no actual upgrades until now!
My suggestions regarding web design would be:
1. Dreamweaver
2. Fireworks
May want to include:
1.Photoshop
2. Illustrator
3. Flash
Cheers! -jazz
I used fireworks and dreamweaver tools for http://www.ttgint.com website which helped me a lot. Html5 and css2 is used.
Looks like XHTML to me and your doc type should be on the first line of code; not the second.
This is causing your page to run in Quirks mode which confuses browsers and may lead to performance & rendering problems.
Finally, validate your HTML & CSS code as you have some errors that need fixing.
http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ttgint.co m%2F
Overall, a good effort.
Nancy O.
Alt-Web Design & Publishing
Web | Graphics | Print | Media Specialists
Hi, most important is to understand the essence of what it means web design at different levels, eg usability, customizable design and quality standards, would be great to have the Adobe tools available, and it would take maybe a video, as the video on the web is a very direct way to reach users, another very important level is the publicity will be given to the page in social media and search engine optimization, and may be useful as a program illustrator, since items such as infographics are important when it comes to displaying information, may be more direct to users and especially easy to understand. As for programs, for layout dreamweaver is an incredible tool, but you have to understand first is the html language, and understand that you have different types and versions, for example html5 and xhtml1 are programming languages that should be understood in somehow, to make developments that meet standards of quality, in terms of web design adaptable, today all sites should be designed so that mobile devices can interpret, note that the flash is not read mobile devices however you can get to make great animation with it, making it essential to consider an alternative site for our mobile phones as an alternative to action script language that is the language in which we can program from flash, javascript is the language and its varieties Jquery is very useful today, especially if you design a site "on the scratch"
Jorge Forero
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Hi there,
I just wanted to circle back on this thread and let you know that if you are still interested in utilizing HTML5 for interactive content and animation, Adobe will be releasing a new product in the near future called Adobe Edge Animate. Edge Animate is an HTML5, CSS3 and Javascript authoring program that allows you to create HTML5 animations without having to know code. It is in Preview right now, so it's free to try out until 1.0 is released. You can download it here:
As other users have mentioned, Web is much different from Print Design, and needs to be flexible as it is viewed in all different ways. As a designer, I like to reference different web design blogs for inspiration, and I personally feel that this helps train your eye for designing for web. A great blog is Web Design Ledger (http://webdesignledger.com/category/inspiration). Also, the programs I utilize to develop and design for Web are Photoshop, Illustrator, Dreamweaver, and Edge Animate Preview 7. I used to use Fireworks a lot but found that I preferred the interface of Photoshop more as it is a program I use more often. Also, Illustrator is great to have for creating SVG images, which are becoming increasingly popular with the presence of Retina display on iPhones, iPads, and now the newest Macbook.
I hope this helps! You have a lot of great advice here already! I just thought I would throw in my two cents. ; )
-Devon
My apologies. I have the "http://www." ingrained into my system I must have accidentally typed it! ; )
But yes, you're correct that's the right link^
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