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metronome glitch?

Jun 19, 2012 8:05 PM

Is anybody else having problems with the metronome in CS6?  Twice last night it seemed to botch the beat and trip me up while I was recording.  (In the end, I imported a click track from FL studio, and quickly got the recording done.)

 
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    Jun 19, 2012 10:53 PM   in reply to therealdobro

    I don't use the metronome all that much but, on the occasions I've played with it, I've not had any issues (other than finding where to set the BPM which doesn't seem logical to me!)

     

    By any chance, did you have any other programmes or processes running in background that could be grabbing processor cycles from time to time?

     
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    Jun 20, 2012 8:04 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    The metronome implementation is quite brilliant IMO and I have cause to use it often and never had an issue with it.

     

    I think Bob might be on to something with his suggestion.  http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

    As to the placement of the BPM settings yes it is a bit odd but as a programmer I can see how if you are 'inheriting' the functionality of a 'track' - a track doesn't have a BPM so they would have had a problem that would not have been easy to fix without some serious jiggery & pokery.

    It would however sit well next to the metronome on/off button

     
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    Jun 23, 2012 10:22 PM   in reply to therealdobro

    Do you experience similar glitching or dropouts during playback or recording?  I haven't had the problem you describe and I don't recall any bug reports coming in elsewhere.

     

    Suitespot - you squeaky wheels just might get your grease.  Hope you like grease.

     
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    Jun 23, 2012 10:34 PM   in reply to _durin_

    Aahhh Adobe grease is the best grease IMO - LOL

     
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    Jun 23, 2012 11:54 PM   in reply to therealdobro

    Well, I'm going click crazy, but I've just recorded five minutes of metronome five times and played back each one between recordings.  Not a hint of a glitch despite doing it in a way I'd never record a real session, i.e. with tons of junk running in background.

     

    Dobro, I have to wonder if there's something going on with your computer.  Hmmm...I wonder what Audition uses as a timing reference to determine the metronome beat?  Could there be something going on there?

     

    The one thing I did notice is that the waveform drawing sometimes goes a bit strange when recording--especially the downbeats don't always draw properly even though they sound fine--and the waveform redraws a few seconds later and looks okay.  This is with the MT view zoomed out fairly wide so each beat is pretty tiny.  I suspect this is nothing but mention it just in case it means anything to those more clever than me.

     
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    Jun 24, 2012 1:07 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    Did you try running the latency checker?

    http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

     

    Just a thought...

     
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    Jun 25, 2012 1:43 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    Just to add a little more to your experience with the Latency Checker..

     

    Although it "tells" you there is "a problem", the user is left with the unenviable task of discovering what that problem is!  On, I think, another form someone pointed me to http://www.resplendence.com whose (free) "Latency Monitor" gives you, IMHO, a rather more useful reading of exactly what is causing any latency problems.  It is not the easiest tool to understand (carefull reading of the Help files and ALL the apps tabs is vital) but should assist you considerably in locating and, perhaps, fixing the problem.

     

    HTH

     
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    Jun 25, 2012 11:44 AM   in reply to SuiteSpot

    Im new to all this.. is this ''glitch'' you're refering to something like this.. i was recording my husband singing and playing guitar.. (this is in windows 7)  everything was fine till he started to sing the chorus.. the music getting louder made the playback at that point sound crackly and the volume lower..  how can i fix this???

     
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    Jun 27, 2012 11:33 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    I think I'm running into this myself, now.  Let me spend some time testing it and figuring out if I'm hearing things.

     
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    Jun 28, 2012 2:52 PM   in reply to therealdobro

    I got this problem myself using it for the first time today - stumbled across this thread because of it.

    Creative juices were flowing, I began a session start recording to 3/4 time signature metronome and it clicks out of time after about 30 sec - recording ruined. Tried again, it did the same so abandoned the session. Frustrating as I'm a one take musician most of the time!

     

    Don't make me have to find alternative software to use!

     

     

    EDIT:

     

    I see what is happening. When the playhead reaches the end of the visible play area, that is when the metronome skip happens - it skips back to beat #1 at that point when "making" more visible play area.

    In preferences if you switch off Auto-Scroll during playback & recording, this doesn't happen. The problem then is that you can't see what you are doing clearly.

    Please fix Adobe.

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 6:58 AM   in reply to minanina

    ...yet another update...

     

    Turns out not even disabling auto scroll stops this. Just experienced the glitch again.

    I still think it has something to do with the playhead reaching the end of the view as that is when the glitch occured.

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 8:52 AM   in reply to minanina

    What audio device are you using?  I noticed this, twice, when recording with an M-Audio Fast Track Ultra, but haven't seen it on some of the other devices or the built-in device on my Macbook.  And once I started TRYING to make it happen, it stopped.

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:26 AM   in reply to _durin_

    Usually Scarlett 8i6 interface on a Windows 7 machine, but this happens without the interface too... as this example video I took shows:

     

     

     

    Glitches at around 0:36 and 1:03 in the video.

    Default input, no signal plugged into it.

     

    Is this what was happening to you therealdobro?

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:28 AM   in reply to minanina

    Thanks for the updates and the video.  The bug is currently being investigated and the developers are aware of this thread.

     
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    Jul 11, 2012 4:07 AM   in reply to therealdobro

    @therealdobro.

     

    Glad to hear that Latencymon helped!

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 3:24 PM   in reply to minanina

    I am having this problem also. Exactly as in the video above. It makes the using the built-in metronome impossible...

     

    Any updates on when this will be fixed?

     

    Also can anyone recommend a good external metronome for the meantime?

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 12:32 PM   in reply to charlesbale

    bump.

     

    could any devs give an update on this issue?

     

    (in the meantime i've been foreced to use an external metronome app i bought for $2 in the app store).

     

    thanks.

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 1:13 PM   in reply to charlesbale

    Hi,

     

    Our engineers have provided a fix for the issue and I am strongly hinting that one might see it in an update in the near future once such an update might be fully tested and confirmed.

     

    The metronome problem was sneaky in that it doesn't show itself at the default tempo of 120bpm.  The problem occurs when Audition extends a session duration during recording, and with the default session length of 30 seconds, it typically worked out to always "restart" the metronome at the point it would have begun a new loop.  We also discovered the issue was introduced by a minor change late in the development cycle, after the bulk of the testing of this feature had been performed, so it was definitely something that slipped by rather than the team releasing a known bug.

     

    I'll provide more information about an update as soon as I'm able.  Thanks!

    Durin

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 1:42 PM   in reply to _durin_

    fantastic!

    thanks very much.

     
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    Mar 2, 2013 12:47 AM   in reply to charlesbale

    Hi All,

     

    I have an annoying problem with metronome. Every time I set up the BPM in a session and save and close the session after work, CS6 forgets this setting! When I reopen the file, the metronome is always set to 1280 BPM. If I change it to the right setting (e.g. 80 BPM) it works fine, but closing and reopening change the setting to 1280 BPM again. And again. I really don't want to store all my BPM settings of my files on paper.

    I can't find a solution to solve this. Is it a bug or are there any settings should be changed and I haven't found yet?

     
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    Mar 5, 2013 6:03 AM   in reply to Levin Malma

    I had this problem. But after update patch it went away. Did you install the patch? I have Audition 6 version 5.0.2 build 7 now.

     
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    Mar 5, 2013 9:53 AM   in reply to Levin Malma

    The 5.0.2 patch should address this.  There was an issue in the session file importer on certain OS's that use commas instead of decimal points as separators.

     
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    Mar 8, 2013 12:57 PM   in reply to Kost7

    Patch solved it! Thank you, guys!

     
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