Using Lr4.1 on PC w/ win7pro laptop with external NEC multisync mmonitor-calibrated, I've taken Raws made LR adjustments, then imported 3-10 images into photoshop layers for masking, merges, few if any color changes. Then save as all layers as a psd, then flatten the psd and save as a tiff. When I open in LR for any other minor tweaks, sharpening, dust spots, and do an export into SRGB or Adobe rgb, the colors are terrible. Look nothing like what I see in LR. I've heard people have minimal issues, but I am having major changes, many times the collors will become dull and flat or very saturated when viewed. As an architectural photographer I need these colors close to what I took. If I edit in CR into PS I don't have this problem. I assume its related to the prophoto RGB color changing, but I really don't know what's going on with the color space. The color will appear different from my laptop monitor to the NEC by a lot which I understand a pro monitor will show more colors, but the color space shift is making a lot of work done in LR useless if I have to redo it all in CR. How can I get LR to export the colors I see in LR into a srgb jpg and Adobe tiff?
At which point is the colour changing?
1. When the photo gets to PS
2. When the photo comes back into LR
3. When you export the photo (in which case, what are you using to view the exported photo?)
Lots of steps here:
"Using Lr4.1 on PC w/ win7pro laptop with external NEC multisync mmonitor-calibrated, I've taken Raws made LR adjustments, then imported 3-10 images into photoshop layers for masking, merges, few if any color changes."
How do you get them into PS? What do you mean by "imported 3-10 images into photoshop"? Do you mean you use "Edit in.." from LR, and choose "Open as layers in Photoshop..."?
"Then save as all layers as a psd, then flatten the psd and save as a tiff."
How does it look in PS?
"When I open in LR for any other minor tweaks, sharpening, dust spots"
How do you open in LR? The normal process, after "Edit in..." is that you save in PS, and the image is automatically stacked in LR against the original (or one of the originals, if you open several by "Open as layers in Photoshop..."). How does it look now?
"and do an export into SRGB or Adobe rgb, the colors are terrible. Look nothing like what I see in LR."
Only now they look terrible? They looked OK in LR originally, OK in PS, OK when back in LR, but when you export they look bad - is that right? And as Victoria says, how are you viewing the exported images?
"I assume its related to the prophoto RGB color changing, but I really don't know what's going on with the color space."
It certainly shouldn't be due to colour space changing. The whole point of colour management is that it deals with this.
Final points: you say your monitor is calibrated. You do mean calibrated and profiled with a hardware instrument (Spyder, Colormunki etc)?
And, color settings in Photoshop, they should look something like this:
Choice of working space should be ProPhoto RGB, Adobe RGB or sRGB, but not a monitor or printer profile. Policies should all be "Preserve" and I recommend all the "Ask When" boxed be checked (so you are warned of mismatches).
I will have up to 10 seperate images I import from Lr into Ps using the "edit in" feature, open s layers. Colors remain same as Lr. When finished Ps work I use save as to retain layers in case I need more layer edits. Also flatten the image and save as 16bit tiff. Lr adds to cat but not coll.
I use an i1 for monitor calib.
Color settings in Ps were prophoto when all the issues began. Haven't tried switching that.
Problem begins when I export from Lr, the new files don't look like the orig. Others are seeing much different color pics. I export as srgb jpg and 8bit tiff as adobe. both are more dull and nowhere near the colors seen within Lr.
Sorry, I'm lost when it comes to the color mgmt.
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So what are you viewing the exported photos in? If you import your sRGB JPEG and your 8bit AdobeRGB TIFF back into LR, do they look the same as before? What about if you open them into Photoshop?
I've used a few programs on windows and one one looks bad. Can't remember which it was. I'm on the road today. Lr and Ps look fine, but my biggest problem is when other look at them on their own computer they are not seeing what I see. Is there a way to embed what Lr does to the photo to make it look good on my comp, so it looks good on all computers? I really am at loss, your help is much appreciated!
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You have no control over the quality of other user's monitors or whether they are calibrated or not.
All you can do is calibrate your own monitor with a hardware device and export in the sRGB colour space. That will at least give you a fighting chance with all the random computers that may be viewing your images.
Will a color managed program show the pic the way I see it on other computers?
The problem is, you can't tell how it will look on other computers if they're not colour-managed (with a calibrated/profiled monitor and colour-manged browser). There's no particular "look" of non colour managed computers. They could vary any which way from a colour-managed monitor. However, most monitors are very roughly sRGB colour space, so exporting to sRGB is the best guess.
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