If you don't have a high-end monitor, then you shouldn't calibrate your monitor, the message comes across as a mixed message, you either should use a calibrator or you shouldn't unless you have spent big bucks. TLL mentioned he uses a calibrator, and his monitor was a mid-range monitor. What is the verdict ?
You're seeing that people have strong opinions, and that there really are few hard and fast answers.
You are beginning to gather that everyone has different experience and different needs, and that color-management defies being oversimplified.
The only path I've seen that consistently leads to successful decision-making - the ONLY one - is to reach a good understanding of what color-management is, how it works, what it does for you, where it falls short, then develop your application of color-management to your own situation given your own needs.
Unfortunately, attacking it piecemeal and asking pointed questions on a forum is not one of the best ways to get there.
-Noel
If you'd like to start... I'll throw out some simplified concepts... I apologize if some of this you already know; I'm trying not to assume anything.
Do you understand that a color profile defines how pixel values (e.g., RGB values) map to actual colors?
Does this seem fairly straightforward so far?
-Noel
Excellent.
The application may, as part of its normal operation, send RGB values to a device, such as a display monitor or a printer. For the sake of this discussion let's talk about the display monitor.
A particular display monitor's characteristics for turning pixel values into actual colors are also described by a color profile. This is the monitor profile associated with the device in a table managed by the operating system.
The application's responsibility is to transform color values from the document to those needed to properly display the color on the monitor for each and every pixel to be displayed.
To do this, the application must take into account both the document profile and the monitor profile. Ideally both profiles are properly-formed, and the color management software runs accurately.
For the monitor profile, Ideally, all the parts of the display process, from video card to cable to monitor electronics to LCD panel, are taken into account and the monitor color profile accurately describes just what color each RGB value will cause to be displayed.
Of course you know that things are never ideal - they don't even stay the same over time - hence suggestions to calibrate and profile a particular display, and to repeat the operation over time.
Now let's try to define a "decent" display system. Things that come to mind are:
-Noel
StrongBeaver wrote:
If you don't have a high-end monitor, then you shouldn't calibrate your monitor, the message comes across as a mixed message, you either should use a calibrator or you shouldn't unless you have spent big bucks. TLL mentioned he uses a calibrator, and his monitor was a mid-range monitor. What is the verdict ?
The message is in no way "mixed", there's no need for a "verdict" either, as nothing is in dispute among those who understand color management.
There is a rule: if color accuracy is important to you, get a good monitor, calibrate and profile it regularly and often with a hardware calibrator. Period.
If you have a poor LCD monitor, it probably will be impossible to calibrate accurately anyway, so why the heck bother?
If you have a poor LCD monitor and color accuracy is important to you, then buy a good monitor and calibrate with a hardware calibrator regularly and often.
No one who is knowledgeable about the subject is ever going to advise you not to calibrate and profile your monitors. By the same token, no one will ever advise you to put up or "make do" with a mediocre or poor-quality monitor. What's so hard to understand about that?
Always calibrate with a hardware colorimeter, otherwise known as a hardware calibrator "puck". Discard a poor-quality monitor.
Sorry if the message is not clear enough. Let me know what else needs to be explained in more detail.
Sorry, I don't have meaningful experience with either Samsung or Asus. I wouldn't presume to hold myself as an arbiter of the quality of monitors, I can only comment on what I know from personal experience, as I have done here.
Both of those are reputable brands at bargain prices, however.
At this point I really need to come back to Noel's wise observation:
Noel Carboni wrote:
The only path I've seen that consistently leads to successful decision-making - the ONLY one - is to reach a good understanding of what color-management is, how it works, what it does for you, where it falls short, then develop your application of color-management to your own situation given your own needs.
Unfortunately, attacking it piecemeal and asking pointed questions on a forum is not one of the best ways to get there. [emphasis added]
In closing, even with a "limited palette" of web-safe colors, you still need a good, accurately calibrated and profiled monitor to see those limited colors correctly.
For my sRGB reference system I have set the sRGB IEC61966-2.1 profile to be the default profile in the Windows Color Management dialog.
Calibration can be directly adjusted via the video card driver control panel. But you may want to center your on-monitor controls first, or set them to reasonable defaults (depends on the monitor and other factors). It's possible the monitor's sRGB setting has already done this for you.
As I have an ATI card and ATI Catalyst drivers, I use the Catalyst Control Center functions to directly manipulate the various color settings. Then I save them as a named preset and Catalyst Control Center auto-activates that default on login.
-Noel
>> Can this specific thread come to a conclusion where as if your monitor (and this is on a case-by-case basis) is low end, then hardware calibation is pointless ?
One thing to keep in mind is that when you're calibrating an LCD monitor you're always reducing it's total possible output. Hence if you have an old LCD with a dying back-light, a calibration will make the colors look darker and more muted, even if they're more "accurate", because there's less light left to work with. From what I've heard most standard monitors behave somewhere close to sRGB, but from experience I know this isn't the case if you're working with wide gamut monitors...
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