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LR corrupting my Raw Files

Nov 8, 2010 10:38 AM

I've read the other discussions but haven't really seen an answer yet and the typical responses don't seem to apply to my situation.  Here is my situation:

 

I'm am getting corrupted RAW files after importing into LR.  Typically this is blamed on Hardware issues but I don't think that is the case for me.  I am getting 1 corrupt file per 100 or so imported.    I've had it happen using different CF cards.  And the file doesn't seem to be corrupt on transfering to my hard drive.  I'm using a Canon 40D.  Using Lightroom 3.2 64bit.  I shoot in RAW.  Here is my work flow.

 

  • I import the photos to my external hard drive via the camera.
  • I then back up the originals before importing into Lightroom by burning them to back up discs.
  • I then import them into Lightroom from their location.
  • Upon initial look everything is fine but when you actually select an image and the preview is fully rendered you can see the corrupt image.  Usually a white rectangle in the bottom right side the image.  Sometimes you get the yellow and pink streaking in that same area as well.
  • In trying to open the original file from my hard drive using just my basic Canon Digital Photo Proffesional after it was imported into LR it also states that the image is corrupted. 
  • Now if I get out my back up disc and copy that image to my desktop and open it in Canon Digital Photo Proffesional it opens it without problem.  There is no corruption.  So the file that I backed up from my hardrive shows no corruption.  I think the original file is fine.
  • I then copied the image from my desktop to the original folder on my external hardrive overwriting it.  The image in lightroom is now fine.  There is no corruption.

 

Process of elimination leads me to believe that the corruption happens on importing into Lightroom.  It isn't my cards (different cards same problem).  It isn't my external hardrive as the file copied from that drive is fine.  It seems random especially being that I can overwrite the file with the same file and then it is fine.

 

I really hope this problem is sovled quickly.  This to me is a BIG deal.  Any other ideas?

 

 

 

 

 

 
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    Nov 8, 2010 10:53 AM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    Since starting with the LR 3 beta, currently using the latest RC, I've imported >20K raw images. Not one was corrupted. I haven't seen any other reports blaming LR3 for this problem.

     

    I think the probability the problem is hardware is pretty high.

     

    Graham

     
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    Nov 8, 2010 10:58 AM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    Lightroom never modifies your original photos. The problem is almost certainly hardware: camera, card, hard drive, cables.

     
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    Nov 8, 2010 11:14 AM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    dmpkce-CP wrote:

     

    I keep reading the hardware answer but as I said, images are not corrupt until after importing into LR.  If it is hardware what would it be? I've spent hours running through each hardware piece.  Happening to different CF cards, different cables.  Nothing else stored on my hard drive is having problems.  Only RAW image files that I've imported into LR.  Belive me, I'll replace hardware if that is it but where do I start?

     

    Hard drive, hard drive controller (likely on the motherboard), hard drive cable.  Those would be my guess.

     

    I've imported approximately 400,000 images with LR without a single one going corrupt so I doubt it's the software.

     

    After you copy your backup to your hard drive overwriting the corrupt one, do you import again?  Do they go corrupt again?

     
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    Nov 8, 2010 12:16 PM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    All raw files have a a built-in jpeg preview that the camera produces. That is the same preview that you see on the back of the camera. Most programs that you would use to view your raw files use that jpeg, not the raw data.

     

    The jpeg is lots smaller than the raw data, so if there is corruption in the file, the odds are that it will occur in the raw data, not in the included preview. Lightroom only shows you the raw file's preview for a short time, while it is generating a new preview from the raw data. If the raw data is corrupted, this can give the impression that LR is corrupting your files.

     

    Like everybody else who has replied, I urge you to look hard at your hardware. Deteriorating disks can yield odd and confusing problems that seem to defy logic. I've been there, and it's no fun to be mystified. I suspect that flaky memory can also give strange, inconsistent results. And like the other posters pointed out, LR just copies your files from one place to another, but it doesn't make any changes, so the odds are very high that you aren't looking at a Lightroom bug.

     

    Hal

     
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    Nov 8, 2010 1:32 PM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    dmpkce-CP wrote:

     

      The corruption is happening at a later point.  Would an image start out fine on a hard drive and then end up corrupting apart from any program changing it?

    I've seen things like that happen with a faulty drive. Your problem could be happening when the file was copied to its current location. It could also happen that the location the file ended up in is a place on the disk that doesn't hold its magnetism very well, or that the drive itself got confused and wrote other data on top of the previously good raw file. If the volume data that keeps track of free sectors is corrupt, ordinary file writes could corrupt random files all over the disk.

     

    Hal

     
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    Nov 8, 2010 5:51 PM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    This may sound silly, but have you defrag'ed that hard drive lately?  I have had problems with a drive large drive that had not been defrag'ed for a long time.  Once I did, it turned out that it was badly fragmented, my problems went away.

     

    Hope that might help.

     

    Walt

     

    B & B Photography

     
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    Jun 27, 2012 6:47 AM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    I am having this too... I have imported to several drives and this seems to be plaguing us on two computers.  Some experimentation... I have tried deleting and reimporting the images with the issue only to have them come back the same, BUT, as a work around, if I copy the images directly to my image library folder using explorer, the images will import to the library with no issues.  Any ideas?

     
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    Jun 27, 2012 7:00 AM   in reply to Kevanwa

    Unless you select “Write date or time changes into proprietary raw files” in the catalog settings, LR NEVER, NEVER touches your raw data. It is read only. Therefore, it isn’t possible LR is corrupting your data on import. It is your hardware (somewhere).

     
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    Jun 27, 2012 3:10 PM   in reply to dmpkce-CP

    dmpkce-CP wrote:

     

    • I then import them into Lightroom from their location.

    This part of your description is unclear. Do you let Lightroom move or copy the files during import, or have you already placed them in their final destination folder prior to import?

     

    Edit:

    I just now realized that the thread is from 2010. But I am still curious.

     
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    Jun 28, 2012 1:45 AM   in reply to Graham in NC

    Like everybody else who has replied, I urge you to look hard at your hardware. Deteriorating disks can yield odd and confusing problems that seem to defy logic.

     

     


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