I just want to reiterate this comment since it didn't seem to make the list:
Pat Willener wrote in #42:
But when code is posted, the font is so large that it is near impossible to read; see http://forums.adobe.com/thread/999038 for an example.
The font size of posted code is so huge it's really annoying. This is especially annoying bceause frequently lines of code are long, and then users have to scroll or wrap to read them. If anything the code should be smaller, but definitely not larger.
Example:
I assume this is an easy CSS change. (I don't suppose CSS changes can be made off-cycle...)
Also, while I'm here, we seem to have lost the ability to add
?decorator=print&displayFullThread=true to a thread in the UI. This was awfully handy when you want to scan a multipage thread to find a post (as I just did now, looking here for Pat's and any comments on it). I suppose it's fine if you can remember the strings to add, but it'd be nice to have them back (was it called print-friendly view? I can't even remember...ah , "View print preview" according to google's cache).
Edit: Bah, it's annoying having to put screenshots inside tables to give them borders so you can distinguish them...
John, the Reply button does not take me to the last message in the thread. As I reported in my message #180 above, if I use the Reply button on yout opening message of this thread, I am always taken to messge #48. And when I used it now to reply to your message #185, I was taken to message #199:
In my opinion, there is something not working properly here, and the problem was there before the recent changes. I have reported it several times, but nobody seems to notice or care.
If the issue pre-dates the skin update it may be just how Jive works.
Please start another new discussion about it or refer me to an older one that has very specific instructions on how to reproduce, what the expected result is, and what the actual result is.
I'll take that back to Jive to find out if it is working as designed.
Any chance of having the editor work right for entering anything besides plain text?
Any chance of getting the tiny fonts on the Discussions page back to a readable size?
Any chance of getting the font back to where it doesn't jam against the following text when one uses italics?
Any chance of differentiating unread vs. read posts better visually again?
Any chance of not having every update go through a transition where the whole forum looks like crap until people clear their caches?
Any chance of...
Isn't it becoming clear it's pretty much hopeless? ![]()
Adobe should be ashamed that it takes them months and no doubt huge sums of money to improve basic stuff that a junior web programmer with a vague knowledge of CSS and any sense at all about what looks right and wrong should be able to fix in a few minutes.
-Noel
Glad to hear about the points ![]()
Thanks for the old skin screen shot. A real moment of nostalgia
It might look much more old fashioned / and not fit into the modern style of the Adobe site but it was much brighter and more pleasurable rather than the grey and miserable new one.
Maybe if 500 people reply in suport of this view then the world could become a brighter place again.
Noel I get the impression your not too chuffed about they way things are going.
Noel Carboni wrote:
Any chance of differentiating unread vs. read posts better visually again?
I have an older computer with a 1024xNNN screen resolution, wher the read vs. unread topics can easily be distinguished.
On my newest computer the screen resolution is very much higher, and I cannot see any difference between read or unread topics. I can only guess that if a topic has been update more than 24 hours ago (fortunately mentioned twice on the right of each topic) that I have probably already read it.
It really should be easier to distinguish between read and unread topic, e.g. with a slight difference of color.
Sorry I did not see this thread before I posted my concern with the minimum size to be able to view the forum correctly
Out of luck if you have a screen size of 1024x768 and that would have your browser occupy all the real estate. Basically at the moment the minimum size to get correct formatting is 1280x768 or thereabouts.
You can see the effect of the different screen sizes by going to the developer tools in IE9 - or hit f12 - then go to tools then resize and you can see the view at differing screen sizes.
MK
New Skin Broken Now see this:
https://skitch.com/pjonescet/86k8h/adobe-forums-time-for-some-introduc tions
From Nostalgia to Deja vu ![]()
Nice to see the light colors back.
You might want to consider putting all the "info" and "response" stuff in the wide bar at the top (save's on scrolling in long posts with numerous replies)
On second thoughts, obviously there is an advantage of having the "reply.." at the end of the post, one should after all reply after reading the post! So the options, reply, helpful, answered and edit should go on ONE LINE at the bottom of the post and the rest of the stuff, avatar, # of posts, date of membership, points
, post num, status (employee, commoner) ,date of post in reply to at the top.
Anyway here's a little piccy of my first thought
John,
Thank you very much for the return of nice and pale posts, with a slightly darker grey for own posts and pale blue for OP posts.
The is a bit of a mess at the bottom right of each post, and the avatar stuff has its own lines at the top before name and post details.
In the forum, to the right in the thread list there is a bit of mess in Top Participants as well.
adobe-admin wrote:
If the issue pre-dates the skin update it may be just how Jive works.
Please start another new discussion about it or refer me to an older one that has very specific instructions on how to reproduce, what the expected result is, and what the actual result is.
I'll take that back to Jive to find out if it is working as designed.
John, I never opened that new thread because I somehow felt that we (the users) were fighting an already lost battle -lost at least since the move to Jive (remember the thousands of messages with suggestions for the new version that were simply ignored and -I think- even trashed?). And, by the looks of it, now even you have been dragged to the loser's wagon.
it is increasingly clear that Adobe/Jive couldn't care less about what users want. We seem to be at the mercy of some novice site designers who think they know what's best for us. It's a pity that they fail to understand that they are wrong.
I think the people don't know how to design anything.
If I was Adobe I would some people in house that knows what they are doing and fire Jive.
Now they tinkered with setup now and looks like this.
Note I add my annotations to point out what is and whats should be.
Reduce the sizes so they will be all on one line, or set remove the size setting so they will shrink or expand as they are needed. Or if you must stay in stone ages set the width sufficient That everything will be on one line.
As someone else said Arrrrrr!
Quite a few things have returned to normal with the new update.
Naturally they have implemented some new bugs, e.g. no user status in 1st post http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1030084
Bob_Peters wrote:
Ouch!
If I narrow the window interior to around 1050 pixels the right hand column on the Lightroom "home page" (the named participants, etc) clobbers some of the "real" information.
The same thing happens on an iPad...but the display is always messed up on the right wide.
I don't know when the problem was fixed but it's gone now.
Hi,
It might be worthwhile updating the Known Issues list and striking off resolved issues.
I am still seeing some issues where the breadcrumbs list is long, it clashes with the Your Stuff links:
Also inconsistent styling of buttons, in particular in the Advanced Editor and Message windows:
Thanks,
Niall
Claudio,
Thank you. I had forgotten about the little maintenance outage a few days ago. Had cleared browser cache, after the larger one, but not the most recent.
That DID fix everything for me. Even long sub-forums now do not collide. Will check several other sub-forums, to see how it goes.
Appreciated,
hunt
Thanks Claudio,
But I had cleared Chrome's cache (on Mac), quit and reopened, but still have the above issues. Eg edit message buttons:
I have also gone to a Windows machine with IE9 and done the same thing. Cleared the cache, but to no effect. I still see the three issues:
Strange, must be something in the water over here ;-)
Niall
Niall, I moved to my Win machine and entered the forums using IE, cachde already cleared. I got the same overlapping that you report, so I cleared the cache again and restarted IE, but the problem was still there.
As for your other two items, I'm not sure that I understand the problems, so I don't know what to check.
Thanks Claudio,
The issue is that some of the buttons aren't skinned (see screenshots above). Eg they are not big and blue.
This is not a big issue where both buttons are not skinned. However when only one is skinned, it could confuse. For example in the screenshot above the Cancel has the appearance of a primary action button. Whereas the Send Message button is not skinned and appears as a secondary action button.
Not the most critical issue, just don't want someone hitting Cancel by accident, just because it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Thanks,
Niall
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