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Adobe Functional Content and the Creative Cloud

Jun 26, 2012 1:00 AM

Tags: #premiere_pro #encore #creative_cloud #functional_content

Hello All

 

To any Adobe Employee who may read this, can you please get someone at Adobe to take control of this issue and see that the library, templates and all other functional content gets packaged correctly and enabled as a download and "sub-install" for the parent product inside the Adobe Application Manager.

 

I think as subscribing users we should get better service and direction from Adobe in regards to this functional content. As I type this I have more than 10 tabs open, each one leading to a thread that has something to do with how to install and fix a problem with the Functional Content for After Effects, Premiere Pro and Encore.

 

See if you can in less than 30 minutes figure out exactly what to do to activate this content by reading these threads:

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4447237#4447237

 

http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/library-functional-content-mi ssing.html

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4418591#4418591

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4400620#4400620

 

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1006810?start=0&tstart=0

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4511169#4511169

 

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1028055?tstart=0

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4417092#4417092

 

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1002454

 

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4417092#4417092

 

I have been very reluctant to do anything because I am reading a lot of conflicting and incomplete information. This link in particular, http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/library-functional-content-mi ssing.html, is really unhelpful because there are 3 methods to do something but reading it I am not sure if each method does the same thing or if each does one part of the 3 sets of missing Functional Content. Additionally "solution" 3 presents a place to put the content but then leaves out the path we are to do it to.

 

Most disappointing is the fact that the first "solution" did not get me the menu buttons I am looking for in Encore and I don't know if I screwed up or if the install was incomplete for some reason.

 

Do I now need to install one of the other "solutions"? Those of you in the community that are about to hit reply, please don't. Do not answer that question.

 

Here is why...

 

Adobe is responsible for delivering us customers a product. It is Adobe's responsibility to fix the mess that a number of paying customers are having regarding this Functional Content.

 

TO ADOBE:

 

Here is what I and I think a lot of other subscribers want you to do:

 

You already have a Solution in place. One that doesn't require a lot of user intervention and doesn't require anyone to pick a "solution" and screw it up, search for more help and spend hours of their time fixing a mess.

 

Adobe Application Manager. Create the proper installation packages. Put them on the servers, tell the AAM how to clean up the mess any users who have tried these "solutions" have made. Then have it install the proper packages as a "Sub-Installation" for each of the parent software that it is for.

 

This solution will not only make things better for us end users, but you will also make the manageability of the Functional Content easier for your teams as well. And if your teams wanted to add additional Functional Content to any program that is part of the creative cloud or that the Adobe Application Manager manages, then it would be a simple matter of creating an installation package and adding it to the AAM's list of installable programs.

 

You just did this exact thing with Lightroom 4.1! Why can you not do this for the Functional Content?!?

 

Back to the Community Members that want to answer my post. Don't. Instead if you agree with me or even if you don't, sign off on this thread or indicate your virtual thumbs down. Either way I don't want an answer, I want an action from Adobe, the only ones who can fix the mess.

 

I really believe that the Application Manager is the most elegant solution. If any of you have ever used Steam, you know what a great feeling it is when you can download a game demo, try it, buy it and just have everything take care of itself. I don't even have to worry about updates; Steam takes care of my games. And the thing that makes it really valuable? I DON'T PAY $50 A MONTH TO USE STEAM AND HAVE IT JUST WORK, IT IS FREE!

 

All I want at this point is Functional Content that I don't have to read a 50+ page manual to install. I know that is an exaggeration, but honestly if it is 1 badly written set of instructions or 50 what does it matter? I don't pay Adobe so I can read up on how to install their software; I just want to use it.

 

I guess I should also point out that this is now the second large hold up to my project that I started subscribing for. The first was a problem that I again had to figure out the solution to by working around it, when again Adobe seems to be unable to correct the problem, here, here, here and here.

 

And now here I am again at a slight stand still because I can't use my DVD authoring software to create a button on a Wedding DVD menu.

 

Okay, you can go ahead and reply... but I would still prefer no answers, just /agree or /disagree.

 
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jun 26, 2012 5:39 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Not an employee, but I am a forum moderator.  Please stop spamming the forum with links to this topic.  They have all been deleted.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Jun 26, 2012 8:58 AM   in reply to Jeff Bellune

    We are looking at addressing this in a future update. 

     

    For now though please reference Library, title templates, template projects missing: Premiere Pro, After Effects, Encore CS5 - CS6 - http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/library-functional-content-mi ssing.html for information on how to obtain the additional content.

     
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    Jun 28, 2012 7:53 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    The referenced document is for both CS6 and CS5.  Are you having difficulties obtaining the functional content for CS6 referenced in solution 1?  If so what type of difficulties are you experiencing?

     
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    Jun 29, 2012 10:21 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Moving this discussion to the Premiere Pro CS5, CS5.5, & CS6 forum.  The users in this forum will be more familiar with utilizing the additional content.

     
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    Dec 19, 2012 6:17 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    I know this is an old link but in case you are still having problems. 

     

    I can understand your frustation ACT.onn but posting comments like this isn't really likely to get anyone onboard with helping you out and it certainly won't pressure Adobe into coming up with a solution any faster.  I believe there was an issue early on but it has now been resolved for the majority of Users'.

     

    Are you still having problems?   If you go to the link that Jeff Wright has posted (http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/multi/library-functional-content-mi ssing.html).

     

    1. Download the file, save it to your preferred location.

    2. Unzip it.

    3. Double click on the file "PremierePro_6_Content_LS7".  When asked to run it, do so and the auto-installer should install the necessary files to the location specified.

    4. Go to that location and into the folder "Premiere Pro Family Content Installers", you should see a couple of folder's: Adobe Encore CS6 Functional Content and Adobe Premiere Pro CS6    Functional Content.

    5. In each there is an application called Set-up, double-click and each should install the appropriate files to your Adobe programs.

     

    Mine was working ok but I've just had to reinstall Adobe CS6 because computer had to be repaired.  I know the above works as I've just done it this morning.  If it doesn't for you for some reason, post what exactly is happening or not as the case may be.  That way people will be able to help you a lot more.  I'm on Windows 7 64-bit system but I should imagine it's more or less identical on a Mac.

     

    We all pay the subscriber's fee for what is IMO the BEST all round suite of editing software currently available (no I am not an Adobe Employee, merely somone who has been using software since the 1980's when colour screens weren't around and the avg PC would set you back over £6,000!  10Mhz processing power and no that isn't a typo, 10Mhz).

     
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    Dec 19, 2012 9:08 AM   in reply to GraphiteGal

    I agree that this now works, but it is an absurd method given the history of fairly simple installs of full functional content. I still do not understand the reason this was so messed up to begin with and whether this is to be the new method.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 5:11 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    The previous post was edited to remove a comment about software piracy.  Posts that reference methods or places to pirate software are against forum terms of use and may subject the poster to account suspension or termination.  Adobe has a zero-tolerance policy on this and the policy will be strictly enforced.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 7:18 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Hi Stan

     

    Yes I know exactly where you are coming from.  You are completely right in

    what you say.  I personally wouldn't be able to afford to pay the ludicrous

    full retail price of Adobe software and the introduction of the Cloud

    membership was fantastic for me.  It's up to date and if it continues, will

    mean that you always have the latest version.  The whole suite of products

    for £45 a month.

     

    And at this price you should be able to expect that everything works as

    advertised without issues.  However, a single program is complex, so

    multiply that by the whole suite.  I only say this because I have done some

    programming in the past and with the best will in the world, you can run

    into problems no matter how much testing is done.  I agree they should have

    offered a fix earlier but that always depends on how many people were

    affected by it and how many people are available to sort the issue.  It's

    normally left to more junior programmer's to do these things which can mean

    it takes longer for a solution.

     

    But products at this level are complex and require a steep learning curve

    which makes people less likely to switch and Adobe know this so I'm sure

    they have become complacent.  However, all companies are guilty of this not

    just Adobe.

     

    And I do agree, it should be delivered through the AAM and automatically

    install only the content you want based on your locale. I am sure I read

    somewhere that they didn't deliver it via AAM because you could install the

    other programs as a trial but couldn't access the functional content until

    you had bought the software.  Not sure if that is true but anyway at least

    you are now sorted.

     

    All the best for Christmas and the New Year.

     
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    Dec 22, 2012 5:20 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    I disagree.  It's not necessary to get as specific as you outlined in your asterisk-filled statement to make a comment that, IMO, falls afoul of Adobe's policy.  Your post was edited solely for content.  If you read my first post carefully, nowhere in it did I accuse you of piracy.  I only accused you of making a comment about piracy, which you did.

     

    And the only one who can make you post here again is, well, you.  It's your choice and yours alone. 

     

    Time for this thread to get back on topic.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Dec 22, 2012 8:45 AM   in reply to GraphiteGal

    I do agree with you, that the roll-out of both CS6 and the Creative Cloud, have not gone perfectly. The delivery of the Additional Functional Content is a case-in-point. I feel (hope?), that Adobe has learned from this experience, and will soon have the kinks ironed out.

     

    While I really like my perpetual licenses, and will likely continue to use them, for as long as they last, I do see advantages to the CC approach. One example, and as you cite, is that Photoshop CS 6 has updates on the CC, that are not yet available to the perpetual license holders. I assume that they will be, at some point in time, but CC users get some neat features, that not yet available to me. [I use the word "yet," as I do not know if those additions WILL make it to my perpetual license Photoshop CS 6 - time will tell.]

     

    Personally, I think that Adobe "reached too far" with both the major CS 6 upgrade, and also the CC, but that is just me. I think that Adobe was under pressure from an "historic deadline," and tried for too much, within that time frame. However, I think that they WILL get it sorted out, but there will be pain in Adobe-land, until it has been fixed.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Dec 22, 2012 10:00 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    I do agree with you, that the roll-out of both CS6 and the Creative Cloud, have not gone perfectly. The delivery of the Additional Functional Content is a case-in-point. I feel (hope?), that Adobe has learned from this experience, and will soon have the kinks ironed out.

    Part of the issue here is that there is no difference between perpetual and cloud problems with PR/EN functional content. A major change was made to the content and to the install paths/methods.

     

    I am still guessing as to Adobe's motives in splitting the "buttons" etc not only from the "templates only" functional content, but also to dramatically reduce the number of templates. So I am not clear whether they think there is a lesson to be learned.

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 5:24 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    I have never been "edited" anywhere else and it feels like you are simply thumping people with a big stick.

    If you read around this forum, there's a lot of stuff that I and the other moderators let go on before we feel like we have to step in.  I'm usually the first of the group to step in, and most times I have the backing of the other moderators (but not always).  Some members may raise their eyebrows at what is allowed to remain, while others will feel like censorship is rampant here.

     

    I've participated in forums where the moderation is a lot more heavy-handed and quick to "thump", and I've also participated in forums where it seems like there is no moderation at all.  I try at all times to strike a balance between those extremes in a way that I think will work best for the Adobe community at large.  I try to be fair and leave as much original content and intent as intact as possible.  I'm rarely popular for the decisions I make, but I have a thick skin and Adobe hasn't fired me yet, so I'll continue to work the way I do. 

     

    I'm sorry you feel like you're being thumped.  In reality, until your account is suspended, you're only being gently poked with that big stick.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 5:34 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    The intent originally of the first post was to try and speak to Adobe through the forums in numbers about something rather than start ANOTHER thread to get help for the functional content. The point was send a message not please help me and by moving it you changed my intent and meaning behind the first post. You might as well have deleted the entire thread instead.

    That the thread has evolved into a "help me" topic is actually a good thing, because current and future visitors that need help with getting hold of the functional content will be pointed to this topic when they search.  So you've rightly expressed your displeasure with the messed-up (non-)delivery of the functional content, and you've created a place where other people can get help with the issue.  Kind of a twofer.

     

    Jeff

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 8:17 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    With threads in these forums, one has to consider how the forums, themselves, are most often used.

     

    1. First, there are those, who ask a question, and hopefully receive a helpful answer, or two. Job done.
    2. Then, there are those, who come here with a problem, but before they post, they do a Search, to see if their problem has been discussed already, and there are answers, that will prove useful to them. We usually see a lot of "wow, this thread answered all of my questions - thank you."
    3. Last, there are those who do not search so much, but just pick topics, that look useful, and begin reading those. If I am not actively helping someone from that first group, I do this most often - just reading and learning. Those users are usually never heard from, as they do not usually have a particular problem, but are using the forum like an ever-expanding Help file.

     

    It is the primary job of the MOD's, to see that all aspects of the forums, work for the greatest number of people.

     

    That is one reason why it is important for the OP to mark a question as answered, and Replies as Helpful. That lets new users, when doing a Search, know that there WERE answers, that helped the OP. Also, Adobe has a team, that is responsible for the forums, themselves, and they use the data on "Correct," "Helpful," etc., to go to the upper-powers, and say, "Look, these forums DO work, and we need to support them."

     

    Like Jeff pointed out, this thread will serve a continuing purpose, and to many more users, than have responded in it. Thank you for that.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - I have been poked by Jeff's "big stick," and I have to say that even when I was the recipient, felt that he did the correct thing. It is all too easy for one to let a few comments, or criticisms, become internalized and all too quickly. I know that I have been guilty, from time to time. With but a very few exceptions, I have supported the MOD's actions, and when I did not, have to remind myself that they are in the "trenches," while I am on the outside, looking in.

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 9:52 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    I think my one wish for Christmas this year is for Santa to remove every comma key from every keyboard owned by Bill Hunt. 

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 2:08 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Too funny.

     

    I agree, most of the time, that commas, even semicolons, are overused, or underused, depending.

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 3:55 PM   in reply to Stan Jones

     

    Merry Christmas, happy holidays and a glorious New Year to eveyone.

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - I think that Santa will likely bring Jim a pack of switches and a lump of coal...

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 10:27 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Awesome.  That'll save money on heating fuel.

     
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    Dec 24, 2012 3:13 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    I understand your frustrations.

     

    As the Additional Functional Content, for perpetual licenses, does not change (much), I wish that it was still included on the installation discs. However, that will not help the CC (Creative Cloud) subscribers, and certainly understand Adobe needing to accommodate them, and possibly their reticence to handle that Additional Functional Content via two ways.

     

    It also did not help, that there were some problems, from the get-go.

     

    However, through the pain of some, others can probably benefit, when they upgrade, and come upon this problem.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - at least it is not quite so bad as the CC versions, and perpetual versions of Photoshop reverting to trial, with the latest upgrade...

     
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    Dec 24, 2012 6:49 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    As the Additional Functional Content, for perpetual licenses, does not change (much), I wish that it was still included on the installation discs.

    That's part of the problem; it did change, dramatically. There was an initial functional content installer. As far as I can see this has not changed. It installed various content for Premiere and Encore (and AE?). Bizarrely, it deleted the Encore CS5.5 library. It only installed a very few templates, not the full set of templates, nor the buttons etc that have been part of the Encore library. Eventually, the full content was made available, but with much confusion, some due to Adobe odd attempts to clear it up and some due to us users who couldn't quite believe the installer itself was what woud be fixed. To this day, the download for the full content is on the blog servers.

     

    Still don't get it.

     
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    Dec 24, 2012 7:46 PM   in reply to Stan Jones

    Yes, it is unfortunate, that for whatever reason, Adobe did not do a better job at this, or at least vet everything, prior to release.

     

    I still think that it amounted to "a bridge too far."

     

    Hunt

     
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    Dec 26, 2012 4:09 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hi ACT.onn

     

    Sorry didn't reply to your last post busy Christmas etc.  Saw that you were edited due to the "pirate" links.  bit OTT but never mind. 

     

    Do you, or perhaps anyone else know why the content is treated separately to the rest of the Adobe Suite anyway?  Or is it?  I've only ever downloaded trial versions before getting the CC one. 

     

    Whilst I and many other's probably sympathise with companies and understand that there will never (?) be such a thing as bug free software - it seems to take an inordinate amount of time to fix any such issues;  And as you rightly say ACT, with the resources and quality of staff a company such as Adobe will have at their disposal, it's not really acceptable as EU's of products to wait when your livelihood can depend on delivering projects to ever decreasing deadlines.  And using Adobe program's can be so frustrating at times. 

     

    Anyway rant over.  Lets hope CS7 proves less painless or the process to iron out problems is not as slow as the "The Hobbit".

     
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