If there is no response to this, then I will assume this is an Adobe "dirty little secret". A problem everyone runs into but Adobe is silent  about.

Thanks John, but I know that you have to copy the entire file folders out not the individual AVCHD files. I read up on editng AVCHD files before tackling Premiere. So whether I copy the files from my Panasonic AC130 or my Canon cam, the entire folder system gets copied not files. So far, unless someone can specify the fix or how to resync audio in a nested sequence, I have gone back to editng the FCP way. Sync the two cams based on video (can't use audio in Premiere as the audio channel graphic waveform is not as well defined as in FCP - another Adobe minus) in the timeline and then reduce the opacity of Video track 2 to 45% and then use the Razor Tool to cut the clips you need. Of course the audio channels shouuld be locked to avoid cutting the audio up as well.

You know John, maybe after I finish editing my projects, I should compile all my work arounds and list the Premiere problems and how to deal with them. Good thing you Adobe guys have us FCP editors here not to clean up the Adobe mess. Imagine how worse things would have gotten here in Premiere Amateur Editing software if the Apple people didn't chase the money and dump FCP for better iPhones and iPads, etc to boost revenue.

Thanks John. All I meant was that the Adobe users are lucky to have FCP editors here to help out. Since I can compare both apps, Adobe is going to have to do a hard sell to convince me they have a better project. Maybe I should edit AVCHD in Premiere and then encode to mpeg2 and import back to DVD Studio Pro.

Well I am on Win 7 64 bit. Apple will probably trash their Workstations soon as well. So the audio was from the AVCHD file same as the video. Very simple setup. I placed my cam #1 file with video and audio on the timeline then found a sync point - photo flash frame from camera one and matched it to cam #2. Placed cam # 2 video and audio on Video 2 and Audio 2.  Then selected the video 1 and 2 and nested them. Used Multicam Monitor. First 1/3 of edit was fine. After that the video was out of sync.

Seems pretty straight forward. Would have been even more so if Premiere warned me that a specific action put the audio out of sync. Then gave me a way to resync the nested files. Didn't find the sync issue out until I played the DVD back after authoring in Encore. I do have a quick fix for resetting Encore files that I used in DVD Studio Pro and works in Encore as well.

The purpose of video editng is to edit a video and get paid for the work, not trouble shoot the software. If I wanted to do that I would have gotten a degree in software engineering. If I have to trouble shoot the software then some software engineer goofed and created a bug or an issue that interferes with video editing. Listen

The audio and video was in sync, that is why the first 1/3 of the edit was fine. It was nesting that caused the sync issue.

Listen shooternz, I expect video editing software to work correctly 100% of the time. I am not a software engineer and should not have to trouble shoot the app. If you bought a TV set would you expect it to work 100% of the time? You wouldn't try to open the set and fix it. I paid for video editing software and I expect it to work correctly 100% of the time.

Sorry not trying to annoy you shooternz, Yes the original timeline is fine up to about 1/3 into the video. Somehow after that point the audio is out of sync. Now I have redited from the nested sequence that was in sync on using the following method. I lay in cam #1 (video & audio) into video 1 in the Sequence. Then I find a sync point in cam #2 and reference it to the same point in cam #1. I then place cam #2 in video and audio track 2. I lower the opacity in video 2 to 48% and proceed to edit using the razor tool and placing video from cam#2 onto video 1 in the sequence. Audio channels are locked so they don't get cut up. Everything is in sync. So yes to your laast question.

BTW why would the OS (WIN 7) have issues with Multicam? If Adobe  products have issues with the OS then they shouldn't be selling them and advertising them as Pro apps.

My complaint is that Premiere does not have a safe guard to alert you when audio goes out of sync. I wasted a few hours editing to recoup the out of sync video.

Yes shooternz, I went back and checked the original footage from both cams and played back in the source Monitor they are in sync. Where there is a speech at the end of the video the lips are in sync.The Sequence settings was taken from the footage, I did not specify the seetings but let Premiere set it up based on the Properties of the cam footage files.

The footage for both cams was continuous roll for 2 hours without a stop.

That may be but what puzzles me Jim, is that Premiere did not give me a warning and the ability to correct the misaligned audio with the nested sequence. In FCP not only is there a red flag but it tells you how many frames or seconds you are misaligned by. A right click on either the video or audio gives you the option to slip them into alignment. There doesn't appear to be any comparable ability in Premiere. There are a few things Premiere does have that surpasses FCP, especially in the titling, but this sync issue is a major one.

I did not nest the audio tracks when I nested the video since I wasn't sure which audio track I preferred i.e. Cam #1 or Cam #2. Would that have made a difference? Is there any way to have a default transition applied in a nested sequence so that one can cross fade from one clip to another? In FCP you can right click on a cut and apply a default cross fade for either video or audio.

Although some of my posts may seem to be bashing Adobe, I believe that products should work as advertised. It is one thing to ask for info if one is unfamiliar with an app, it is another for an app to lack key editing features or contain a bug in the programming.

I'll let you know if I see it. Right now I am editng the FCP way. Using Razor tool I cut my in point and out point on the Video 1 & 2 layers and audio layers then select those segments hit delete then ripple delete. This way I am assured the audio is in sync and not subject to the quirks of the Nesting option.

Hi Frank,

I saw your post just as I was checking a DVD I edited 5 months ago. I used the Nest tool in PPro and good thing I checked the DVD before duplication as half way through the video, the audio was out of sync. This was another example of what I originally posted.  There should not be, I REPEAT FOR THE ADOBE STAFF, "SHOULD NOT BE" THE NEED FOR WORK AROUNDS, PERIOD.

Those who comment " well it could be your system, your set up, etc" STOP DEFENDING A FLAW IN THE SOFTWARE. Would you buy a car that catches on fire when you start it up? I think not. The reason FCP became the leading software for 80% of the editing houses out there was its consistency and smooth workflow. If Adobe wants the same market share, they should examine the problem determine the causes and then inform the user as to work arounds and updates and fixes for this problem. It is not the job of the customer to fix the product. Jason, I appreciate your comments. Apple sank FCP because they make more $$$ from iPhones and iPads.

Fixing the software is not our job. Editing is our job. This forum should be for an exchange of ideas and help from other users. BUT, when an issue arises and is confirmed by other users, the Adobe staff should jump on it within a week at the most. We should not be referred to their library of instructions on how to use PPro as a solution.

I like PPro for the most part. If some one had referred me to an exact cause of the audio problem and I was able to see it and correct my timeline, then no problem.

BTW Jason the audio goes out of sync about half way through the Timeline in the affected projects. Also, Simon, I realized that if I adjusted a nested part of the timeline the audio would go out of sync. My process was to sync up two cameras (2 layers of video and audio) then followed the Adobe Help instructions to nest them. Once done. I simply cut back and forth between shots in the Nested Sequence Window. Nothing else was done to the Timeline or the Nested components.

Shooternz, guess some one else chimed in.