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printer settings button wont work

Jul 2, 2012 4:18 AM

Hello. I've just updated to Photoshop CS5 on my Mac (10.5.8) and now my printer settings button wont work for my HP photosmart B9180. Can anyone help?

 
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  • PECourtejoie
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    Jul 2, 2012 6:17 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    Hello, I would first look on the HP website if there is no updated driver, and reinstall it.

     
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    Jul 2, 2012 6:35 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    It might be a solution. The printer settings button is in the print menu? Does it still work in earlier versions of Photoshop?

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 2:56 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    Hi again, what do you mean by it nearly works? How is Photoshop's printing windows set up? Could you post a screenshot with Photoshop's and your printer's print menus? Command-Shift-3, then use the little camera icon here to post the image.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 4:36 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    I see two times the same image, but it is notmal to see the profiles disabled when you select printer manages colors, as in that case, you need to set it up in your printer driver (when clicking on print settings), and not in Photoshop, using the Adobe Color Engine.

    Why do you not want to use Photoshop manages colors? see:

    http://www.computer-darkroom.com/ps12_colour/ps12_1.htm#Section 6 - Printing

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 4:57 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    Sorry, I did not understand that the button does not work when using the other option. Is there something you wanted to do specifically with printer manages color? (Ps manages is the best option if you do have the correct profile for your paper)

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:13 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    At some point (Apple, Adobe... havn't quite figured out who) changed the printing flow that automatically disables the Color Setting choices in the print dialog when Photoshop is chosen to manage colors. This is on purpose to prevent double color management.

     

    As it turns out, many people were making color adjustments in the print dialog even with Photoshop  chosen to manage colors. And now they wonder why they can no longer access it.

     

    So, in short, your previous method was incorrect, and now you are being forced into the "preferred" color managed workflow.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:19 AM   in reply to charles badland

    The only workaround I see would be to print the files from the finder, if such thing is possible.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:38 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    why then can I not even change the quality of the print?

     

    It may depend on the paper type; there may not be a draft setting for the HP glossy paper. Try plain paper.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:48 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    the printer settings button actually worked when I hit printer manages colour for the first time & now its not working again!

    yeah... I think I remember some quirk where Color Settings stayed grayed out even when Printer Manages Color. I think it had to do with order of sequence in choosing who color manages.

    If you do it the correct way: choosing "Printer Manages Color" in the PS print dialog should enable Color Settings in the subsequent HP print dialog.

    Choosing "Photoshop Manages Color" in the PS print dialog should disable Color Settings in the subsequent HP print dialog.

     

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    so that last screen shot is with "Printer manages Color" checked?

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 6:56 AM   in reply to charles badland

    Also, (a bit of a tangent) unless you are doing this for proofing for a production run at a printing press, you should use an RGB editing space, like AdobeRGB. Desktop printers, like the HP Photosmart, expect RGB data to be sent to them, not CMYK.

    (and even then, I would still suggest working in RGB... )

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 7:07 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    Well, so far, every image you have posted indicates things are working as expected.

     

    Try to minimize variables and stick with a good Color Manage workflow:

    Calibrate your monitor with a hardware calibration device.

    Work in an RGB space (I like ARGB)

    Soft proof to your output profile (View>Proof>Custom and choose your printer/paper profile)

    Print: choose Photoshop Manages Color and the correct printer/paper Profile in the PS print dialog.

    In the HP print dialog, make sure Color Setting are off and choose correct paper and print quality.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 7:12 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    how do I change it to RGB? as I havn't chnage anything myself? it was defaulting to this?

    Well, that horse has left the barn.. (or whatever aphorism applies)

     

    But in the future, you may get a better range of colors if you create art in an RGB space. Just be sure to proof for your printer to see what colors are out of gamut.

    Working in CMYK only to go to a desktop printer may deprive you of certain colors.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 7:21 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    A bit dated,

    but this Russell Brown tutorial on printing to the HP Photosmart may help:

    http://av.adobe.com/russellbrown/HP9180PrintingSM.mov

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 7:23 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    oh right i see, no I need to work in CMYK as it does go to a professional printer

    Right... and even it you do go to offset printing... in your case I would stick to working in sRGB or AdobeRGB.

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 8:57 AM   in reply to Little Brown Rabbit

    With document open in Photoshop:

    Edit>Convert to Profile>Destination Space>AdobeRGB.

     

    But, as I said before, at this point you probably will see little, if any, difference.

    For future projects, have ARGB chosen as your editing space as you are making the art. And soft proof (View>Proof Setup>Custom>Device to Simulate> pick your printer/paper profile), now Cmd+Y will let you soft proof as you edit.

     

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    and, frankly,  if all of your work is a similar "pastel" palette, you may see little difference.

    But you will be using a proper workflow.

     

    And remember, first rule before anything is calibrate your monitor with a hardware calibration system.

     
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