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Creating sharp menus with Encore/Photoshop

Jul 3, 2012 3:23 AM

Good day all.

 

Any assistance with this will be greatly appreciated. I am creating menu's iwith Encore/photoshop and all is good and well with the text howeve, photo's and logo's come out at a lower quality and with some pixilating...For a 16:9 project  I create a menu at 1024x576... Is there any spesific imige size/res etc for logos, pics and photo's?

 

I have cruised the net long and hard to get answers but no luck yet!

 

Thanks,

 

Clem

1210 Views   8 Replies   Latest reply: Neil Wilkes, Jul 6, 2012 8:24 AM
 
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  • Stan Jones
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    1. Stan Jones,
    Jul 3, 2012 4:14 AM   in reply to Avenga
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    DVD or Bluray?

     

    Start with a menu from the Encore library. That will show you the right pixel size/par.

     
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    2. Avenga,
    Jul 3, 2012 5:47 AM   in reply to Stan Jones
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    Hi Stan,

     

    Its just regular DVD... I'll give that a bash. My concern is that the Text is all good, just the pics are cranking out a bit. I'll let you know of any progress.

     

    Thanks a mil for the feedback, it goes very appreciated.

     

     

    Cheer, Clem

     
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  • Stan Jones
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    3. Stan Jones,
    Jul 3, 2012 6:01 AM   in reply to Avenga
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    Let us know.

     

    You are requiring Encore to downrez, and better to get it to size using photoshop's resizing.

     

    I'm with you for text that is already good, but you've got to live with the DVD resolution.

     

    Also, don't rely on Encore preview; but a test disk (rewritable) to see how it looks on a TV.

     
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  • Bill Hunt
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    4. Bill Hunt,
    Jul 3, 2012 1:35 PM   in reply to Avenga
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    I agree with Stanley, that creating the Menus at the correct pixel x pixel dimensions, will be as good as it gets.

     

    While your Text is not a problem here, there might be some useful tips in the links in this ARTICLE, on Text, for the next Menus.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    5. Avenga,
    Jul 4, 2012 12:49 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt
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    Thanks a mil gentlemen,I'll read over article and try the various approaches....  But I do realize that I'll have to resign to the fact that without super pricey authoring software I'm not going to get flawless menu's....

     

    Have a good day!

     

     

    "A"

     
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  • Bill Hunt
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    6. Bill Hunt,
    Jul 4, 2012 11:17 AM   in reply to Avenga
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    Unfortunately, really sharp Menus, when done in such a manner, so that you do not have to Scale anything, and with fonts that are adequately sized, and chosen for the task, the limiting factor is the MPEG-2 DV CODEC and the resolution of DVD-Video.

     

    For me, it was a real slap, when I added Web-based production, coming from high-level print work. Wow, what a set of limitations. Then, another slap, when I went to DVD production. Almost all of that old quality was now lost. Still, in its day, DVD-Video was a real step up from VHS tapes.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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  • Neil Wilkes
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    7. Neil Wilkes,
    Jul 6, 2012 8:22 AM   in reply to Avenga
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    Try creating your initial screens at 300DPI and scaling down.

    Start off with the template in Photoshop, and swap the DPI setting to 300.

    This will give you 3000x2000 pixels, and when you reduce back down to 72DPI after creating the screen using PhotoShop's scaling, it will look a whole lot better than it would if you started at 72DPI / 720x480.

     

    Better still, create graphic art as vector graphics - this is a lot smoother.

    When happy in Illustrator, simly use select all, CTRL/C in Illustrator to copy & CTRL/V in Photoshop to paste.

    Do not use Smart Objects, or any fancy stuff - select all, copy it, then paste in PS.

     

    Hope this helps.

     
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  • Neil Wilkes
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    8. Neil Wilkes,
    Jul 6, 2012 8:24 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt
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    Bill Hunt wrote:

     

    Unfortunately, really sharp Menus, when done in such a manner, so that you do not have to Scale anything, and with fonts that are adequately sized, and chosen for the task, the limiting factor is the MPEG-2 DV CODEC and the resolution of DVD-Video.

     

    For me, it was a real slap, when I added Web-based production, coming from high-level print work. Wow, what a set of limitations. Then, another slap, when I went to DVD production. Almost all of that old quality was now lost. Still, in its day, DVD-Video was a real step up from VHS tapes.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

    Whilst I am in complete agreement about the limited resolution of DVD - it is after all only 720x480 pixels, no matter how big the TV set, you're wide of the mark with MPEG-2. A good encoder makes a lot of difference - try CCE-SP3, and use 9-pass encoding for sub-pixel improvements on each pass.

     
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