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Small details disappears when I using eraser tool

Apr 9, 2012 3:04 PM

Tags: #illustrator #problem #cs5 #tool

I've got a problem with the eraser tool. It removes small details that shouldn't be touched.

 

I guess that there is a setting for  this somewhere but I can't find it :-/

805 Views   10 Replies   Latest reply: JETalmage, Jul 5, 2012 6:15 AM
 
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  • Monika Gause
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    1. Monika Gause,
    Apr 9, 2012 3:15 PM   in reply to Metabaronen
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    Work with selections. Only select the objects, the eraser should erase.

     
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    2. Metabaronen,
    Apr 9, 2012 3:40 PM   in reply to Monika Gause
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    I draw a number of thin strokes (Blob brush tool with size 5 pt with a size variation of 5 pt to get a nice brushy feeling) parrallell to eachother and then use the eraser tool across those strokes. The eraser tool tries to help me by removing the tops and other fine details.

     

    I'm trying use the eraser tool as a scrape on a scratchboard to mimic the real thing.

     

    My other option is to use paper colored strokes above and eventually meld them together with Pathfinder.

     

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  • Monika Gause
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    3. Monika Gause,
    Apr 9, 2012 3:45 PM   in reply to Metabaronen
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    Maybe you should post a picture. I don't get what you're trying to achieve there.

     
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    4. Metabaronen,
    Apr 9, 2012 4:11 PM   in reply to Monika Gause
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    erasertool.jpg

    Thanks for your responses Monica :-)
    The red lines illustrates where I've used the eraser tool. As you can see, some small pieces have been removed even where the eraser never been there.

     
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  • Monika Gause
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    Apr 9, 2012 4:18 PM   in reply to Metabaronen
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    If you switch to outline view - are those lines really gone?

     
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    6. Metabaronen,
    Apr 9, 2012 4:23 PM   in reply to Monika Gause
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    Sadly, yes.

     
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  • Monika Gause
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    7. Monika Gause,
    Apr 9, 2012 4:38 PM   in reply to Metabaronen
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    There is no eraser setting  you can adjust that will prevent this.

    The only settings are the calligraphy-like options that operate with a graphic tablet. You might fix them all to a smaller size and deactivate all pressure sensitivity. Maybe a pressure setting too sensitive in conjunction with smoothing of eraser lines and an area getting too small to be conserved led to this effect.

     

    Another option would be not to use the eraser at all.

    Instead create an opacity mask for the blob-brush lines and draw directly in it using a calligraphy brush (or a blob brush).

     

    You could then revert and edit at will.

     

    Only when all is right you'll flatten transparency and things will be erased permanently.

     
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    8. Metabaronen,
    Apr 10, 2012 9:16 AM   in reply to Monika Gause
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    I guess you are right. Thanks for helping me out :-)

     
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  • babianen
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    Jul 5, 2012 3:48 AM   in reply to Metabaronen
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    This has to be a bug, and it's driving me insane. It was there in CS3 and I just discovered it's still there in CS6. It makes the eraser tool completely useless in many situations.

     
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    Jul 5, 2012 6:15 AM   in reply to babianen
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    It's not a bug; it's just a poorly designed feature. Done right, the Eraser tool should have at long last given Illustrator at least a rudimentary ability to trim artwork containing open unfilled paths—a bare bones basic thing it has always inexplicably lacked. But as implemented, the Eraser fails at even that. The Eraser unprecictably alters the remaining portions of what it "erases." For that, since its belated appearance, I have considered it useless for 99% of what I might ever use it for.

     

    Thus, despite its now five different tools for cutting paths (Scissor, Knife, Path Eraser, Eraser, Shape Builder), it still to this day lacks any proper straightforward ability to simply cut/crop its own artwork. Typical AI feature glut.

     

    JET

     
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