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Roxie380
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Import what the camera saw

Jul 7, 2012 11:21 AM

Basic question:

 

How do I set up LR so that when I import, it imports the exact camera settings?  Specifically, I'm using Canon DSLRs and if the camera Picture Style is "Standard" that's how I want the image imported.  Or if the image was shot with the camera Picture Style as "Camera Landscape" I want that to be the profile setting the image imports with.

 

Is this possible?

 

 

 

A second question, if I have already imported several images, I know I can "select all" and use Auto-Synch to change from the default (which seems to be Adobe Standard) to "Camera Standard" but then is there a way to get rid of the little "+/-" icon and History?  In other words, this is how I wanted the images imported but the default profile wasn't set correctly and the images now show a "History" but in fact its not history but the way I wanted to start before making any actual "adjustments."

 

Or, do I have to re-import all those images with the profile set to Camera Standard?

 

I know this should be basic but I'm having a hard time getting LR set up the "first time."

 

Thanks

707 Views   5 Replies   Latest reply: Roxie380, Jul 7, 2012 11:50 AM
 
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  • Cornelia-I
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    1. Cornelia-I,
    Jul 7, 2012 11:34 AM   in reply to Roxie380
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    Hi Roxie,

     

    Answer to your first question is No.

    Adobe has no access to these proprietary Canon data. If you really insist on them you need to use Canon software.

     

    Your second problem is much easier to solve: change the default develop settings away from Adobe standard to what your general taste is. E.g. Always select profile camera standard i.o. adobe standard, maybe medium i.o. linear tone curve, default correction for lens or even noise. Though the latter only makes sense if you have your preferences set by ISO-level.

     

    Once you changed the standard develop settings ( per camera type or even serial no if you set your preferences so) this will be the import and starting point, alos what you get if you click reset in develop. That is valid for any image which does not yet have xmp-data at the time of import.

     

    How to change the default settings: develop one image with your new settings, but make sure that you only did what can be identically done for any image. Then while in develop module goto menu Develop-set default settings, and click on update with current settings.

     

    Cornelia

     
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    2. JimHess,
    Jul 7, 2012 11:36 AM   in reply to Roxie380
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    Lightroom and Camera Raw do not read those in-camera settings. It's one of the fundamental principles of the Adobe raw development system. In the calibration section in the Develop module you will find profiles that match the settings in your camera. And you have the flexibility of setting any of those that you want. If there is one of those settings that you use most often, then you can make that setting part of your default settings, and then create presets for calling other profiles and making other adjustments if necessary.

     

     

    Because Camera Raw doesn't read those settings, any change you make becomes part of the history. And reimporting isn't going to make any difference whatsoever.

     

     

    Since you are posting this in the Lightroom forum, I'm assuming you are using Lightroom. And Lightroom doesn't use the Camera Raw plug-in. I know, it's a small detail. But I think it's worth pointing that out to you. All of the technology that is in the Camera Raw plug-in is part of the Lightroom program.

     
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  • web-weaver
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    3. web-weaver,
    Jul 7, 2012 11:40 AM   in reply to Roxie380
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    Lr interprets the Raw image data in its own way and there is no possibility of importing to specific camera settings.

    Keep in mind that - as far as I know - these camera settings are not in the Raw image data because the Raw image data is just that: "Raw", i.e. not defined yet as to tonal values, saturation, sharpness. The camera settings "Standard", "Vivid", etc. are applied to the JPGs that you see in the camera display and will be written into the image pixels (by the camera) and thus imported as such into Lr - if and when you shoot JPGs. But when you shoot Raw, Lr imports photos according to its own Raw engine.

     

    I would recommend that you leave these camera settings be and don't bother changing them. I have my camera set to less saturated and less sharpened because I do the tonal editing, the saturation, and the sharpness in Lr. In my opinion these settings are good only for people who print photos directly from memory card and don't process themi n Lr.

     
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  • JimHess
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    4. JimHess,
    Jul 7, 2012 11:44 AM   in reply to web-weaver
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    So as I understand it, Lightroom dies import what the camera saw (as the title of this thread implies). Everything else is up to you, and you have full creative license to set anything the way you want it to be set.

     
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  • Roxie380
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    5. Roxie380,
    Jul 7, 2012 11:50 AM   in reply to Cornelia-I
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    Thanks to both of you.

     

    I had always wondered why when I opened an image in Canon's DPP, it came up just as I saw it in the camera screen, but in LR 3 & 4 there was a delay (loading) the first image would "pop" with other settings.  I'm guessing this is when LR was applying the Adobe "Standard."

     

    I have been looking all over for how to set or create a new profile.  I guess that's the Develop/Set Default    ------- and I see that I can select all images and clear the history in that same Develop menue.

     

     

    Thanks

     
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