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Filter All Images By Predominant Color ?

Jan 27, 2012 6:08 PM

Tags: #lightroom3.5

Here´s my question: no relevant Google results so far!

 

I have 30.000 photos accumulated over the years, several are useless (too dark, too bright).

I need to delete them.

 

How can I select all the images which are either too dark and/or too bright?

 

Mathematically this would be relatively straightforward: filter images where the majority of the pixels are black / white.

 

I´m relatively new to Lightroom, however this seems to me like a feature which should be present out of the box.

 

Thanks for the help.

Francisco

 
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    Jan 27, 2012 6:24 PM   in reply to fcost

    As far as I know, this is not a feature of Lightroom.

     
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    Jan 28, 2012 2:27 AM   in reply to fcost

    fcost wrote:

     

     

    I have 30.000 photos accumulated over the years, several are useless (too dark, too bright).

    I need to delete them.

     

    How can I select all the images which are either too dark and/or too bright?

     

    That's really something that you should have dealt with long ago. A major part - and a major point - of a sorted workflow is to cull "useless" images very early in the workflow.

     

    I can't think of any software that would do this, Francisco - as I suggest, there should be no need for it.

     
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    Jan 28, 2012 4:26 AM   in reply to fcost

    I had some heavily underexposed film scans from 7 years ago, that I did not throw away, because I can't do the same with the film negatives.

     

    When PV2010 arrived, I was able to use several of them, and discovered photos I had never seen before.

     

    Now with PV2012 things are looking even better.

     

    So you better think twice.

     

     

    Frans

     
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    Jan 28, 2012 9:52 AM   in reply to fcost

    If you are suggesting some kind of automatic discard based on a mathematical count of pixels, I think that drastic kind of solution might be detrimental. Some photos are dark by nature [night scenes], some light.  You might [likely] discard photos that you might want to keep.  The best solution is to use the X key to reject any images you do not want and then Photo>Delete Rejected Photos or [Ctrl] + [Backspace] (I believe that would be Command + Backspace on the Mac).  In the future, as you go along, I would weed out what you do not want to keep when imported [as suggested earlier].  I do not think anyone would rely on the software to make this kind of decision.

     
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    Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM   in reply to fcost

    I have recommended a strategy on Lightroomforums and again suggest here that deleting images can be very unwise. Think back to film days and how often did you cut out negatives from a strip that you didn't want? Just rejecting the unwanted images is my approch but not deleting. By the way your quantity of images is fairly small so not difficult to manage. I don't shoot sports and still have 100k from 2011.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 8:38 AM   in reply to fcost

    I don't like any of these answers.

     

    1.  He  is asking for a way to select (granted for the purpose OF removing garbage) something with a predominant color. 

    2.  Every image has its histogram for colors

    3.  Why not search for what would be an eye dropper of an area of an image (to select a range of color)

    4.  Then use that color and search every record in the database for files that have a threshold of X % of that range of color from the histogram data

    5.  Be able to add to a collection for review later

     

    I badlly want this now because I want to search 3 terabytes for green screen shoots.   This would solve my immediate problem, and I could see it used to fine images that would work in a color theory aspect of a design (I have orange lettering against green...I need green images kind of thing.)

     

    Wonder if a plugin can be designed to do this simply?

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 8:45 AM   in reply to irvinephotos

    irvinephotos wrote:

     

    4.  Then use that color and search every record in the database for files that have a threshold of X % of that range of color from the histogram data

     

    As far as I know, the histogram data isn't stored in the database, but is computed for each image as you pull them up.  Thus, doing what you said above would mean opening each file and computing a histogram for each - quite a long and slow process.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 9:06 AM   in reply to Lee Jay

    Well that would complicate things; ThumbsPlus does this today somehow with "find similar images" and I'd like that functionality in LR and on my Mac :-)

     

    http://www.cerious.com/help8sp1/menu_main_edit_find_similar.html

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 9:29 AM   in reply to irvinephotos

    I've also seen the feature in iView,  which harvested the colour information upon import. But it crops up so rarely in Lightroom discussions (or see how much interest this Bridge feature request garnered) that I'd be surprised if we saw it built into  LR.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 11:16 AM   in reply to fcost

    Could be done by a plugin, but I'm not aware of any such plugin yet.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 1:43 PM   in reply to johnbeardy

    Well, I think if you are invested in LR and managed image assets there, you'd want that functionality where you do all other categorizing stuff.  Bridge I always thought should just die, so no wonder it has little traction there.

     

    If anyone is reading this, I'd pay money for the plugin....some others would too if they were responsible for harvesting images based on color scheme....

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 3:26 PM   in reply to irvinephotos

    I kind of agree about Bridge, but this kind of search requirement is more common with  graphic designers who are its typical target user. If Adobe don't judge it worthwhile in Bridge, it's got to be an even lower priority for LR.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 3:47 PM   in reply to irvinephotos

    "I badlly want this now because I want to search 3 terabytes for green screen shoots.   This would solve my immediate problem, and I could see it used to fine images that would work in a color theory aspect of a design (I have orange lettering against green...I need green images kind of thing.)"

    I agree.

    I asked for this a while ago, but either there's just no interest or no one understood what I was talking about.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 3:50 PM   in reply to johnbeardy

    "I kind of agree about Bridge, but this kind of search requirement is more common with  graphic designers who are its typical target user."

    I disagree. When I assemble a series of images the colours present in them are of high importance.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 3:58 PM   in reply to martin-s

    Martin, I would comment on your original request but it doesn't let me.

     

    Stock photography is often color centric....and I thought that is one of the things LR can help do (manage stock images).

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 4:06 PM   in reply to irvinephotos

    Is there another program that can find these photos? If so, and it can output a text-file list of them, then you can convert that list into a Lr selection or collection using Lr/Transporter.

     

    Also, if said program has command-line capability, it would be *much* easier to wrap an automating plugin around it, than to re-invent the capability from scratch.

     

    eh?

     

    Rob

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 4:34 PM   in reply to Rob Cole

    Google “sort by color” and you’ll find a few programs that can it and people asking Adobe about it all the way back to 2009:

     

    Apparently Picasa can sort-by-color, just like it can do face-matching, neither of which LR can do.

     

    I find one post that says they use a photomosaic program (AndreaMosaic was mentioned in another post) with the target picture as a color-gradient to figure out what pictures are what color—I’m not sure how they determine the filename of the photos that match, though.

     

    Another post mentioned Photology:  http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Graphic-Editors/Photol ogy.shtml

     

    ImageSorter can do it: http://www.pixolution.de/index.htm?sites/ImageSorter_en

     

    Of course none of these are command-line or open-source, but maybe adding “open source” “command line” to the Google search would find something applicable to a plug-in wrapper.

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 9:02 PM   in reply to ssprengel

    Well, if a little homegrown company like Cerious can do this, it can't be rocket science.  The Imagesorter solution is really awesome....it is perfect and in fact found the greenscreen images in their demo easily.   Well, if anyone from the adobe product team has any juevos maybe it will make it.   I'd like to see them focus less on the video publishing and more on the images....

     
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    Jul 8, 2012 9:25 PM   in reply to ssprengel

    ssprengel wrote:

     

    Of course none of these are command-line or open-source, but maybe adding “open source” “command line” to the Google search would find something applicable to a plug-in wrapper.

    Thanks Steve.

     

    I took a *brief* look and didn't find anything.

     

    If anybody comes up with a command-line app that will do it, please post.

     

    R

     
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    Jul 9, 2012 12:58 AM   in reply to martin-s

    It's important to think of the wider market rather than extrapolating one's own experience. For me it's not a question of whether this kind of search desirable - it is, and I have at times wanted it. It's more a matter of it only meriting low priority, and if Adobe with all their market research don't judge it worth including in Bridge.... Your best hope is probably a plug-in (maybe automating Picasa?).

     
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