For a previous book, I deleted some tags from the out-of-the-box paragraph catalog. Now I don't have the full set of OOTB tags for use in a new book.
I do have an old document with all OOTB tags, and I can import those tags to the new book. But it would be a lot more convenient to simply go back to the original catalog. Is there a way to do this?
Thanks,
JP
If, by "out of the box," you're talking about the default tags that come
with FrameMaker when you first install it, all you have to do is open a
new, blank document and they will be there as the only tags. Then you
can import them into any other documents you want.
Or did you alter FrameMaker itself to change the values of these
defaults? For example, if I recall correctly, you can edit the
fminit\custom file and save it to make FM use defaults that you set.
(Someone please correct me if I am remembering the wrong file for this.
I wouldn't someone to mess something up.) So, if you did that, you need
to restore the original version of the file.
Hapreet, I did that. I imported the particular tag (Caption) I needed at that moment but I still want to get the full set of default tags to use on new books.
Mike,
I certainly did not alter FM.
Opening a new, blank document doesn't seem to work. FM seems to require a template for a new document, and none of the OOTB templates seem to have the complete set of default paragraphs. I didn't try this for all of the OOTB templates, though, for lack of time.
If anyone can point me (or send me) a document that does have all the default paragraph tags, that would be very helpful.
Also, the paragraph catalog dialog box has three choices, Delete, Options, and Refresh. I set the "show all" option, but it doesn't show any of the paragraph tags I've deleted. "Refresh" didn't seem to affect the paragraph list at all.
Deleting paragraph tags for a given document/book is a reasonable thing to do, no? Is a deleted tag gone forever unless you can find a document that still contains it?
Cheers,
JP
FrameMaker is requiring a template? Are you sure you are following the
right steps? To open a new, blank document:
1. Choose File> New> Document (or type Ctrl+N). The "New" dialog opens.
2. Click on either the Portrait, Landscape, or Custom buttons at the top
of the dialog box. This will create a new, blank document, with default
("out of the box") tags.
3. Open the Paragraph Catalog. The following default paragraph formats
should be listed:
Body
Bulleted
CellBody
CellHeading
Footnote
Heading1
Heading2
HeadingRunIn
Indented
Numbered
Numbered1
TableFootnote
TableTitle
Title
You can then import these tags into any document or book:
1. Open both the file you want to import from (the new, blank document)
and the file you want to import to.
2. Click in the file you want to import into. (Or, in a .book file,
select as many files as you want to import into.)
3. Choose File> Import> Formats. Select the document you want to import
from in the "Import from Document" dropdown list, and deselect
everything else but Paragraph Formats (if you want to import only
paragraph formats).
4. Click Import*
5. That should do it. The default paragraph formats should now be added
to your existing document.
Warning! If you have formats in your existing document with the same
name, they will be overwritten with the properties of the imported
formats bearing that same name in the blank document. So, if you
customized those paragraph formats in your existing document, your
customizations will be lost.
My apologies if I'm telling you anything you already know. I have no
idea if you are a new or experienced user.
Deleting a paragraph format from the Paragraph Catalog permanently
removes it from THAT document and ONLY that document. It affects no
other document, existing or future.
Hi Mike,
Thanks a million...
I'm definitely an FM tyro, though I used V5 more than 10 years ago. The problem was mostly a case of pilot error on my part.
I'm rewriting a docset that was done with FM, and it contained numerous paragraph tags that seemed common enough to be available as defaults (e.g., Caption). I imported that tag from existing files as soon as I needed it, and posted this query because I wondered why I should have to do that.
I created a new document as you suggested and it contained only the default tags you listed -- and I was still thinking that this set of tags should contain other "primitive" paragraph types.
Once you pointed out that the paragraph catalog is document-specific rather than global, all became clear.
I do wonder whether FM users ever create a template that has a much larger set of tags, and then delete any unneeded ones when starting a new document/book. Is this a reasonable thing to do? Or is this better done by editing the fminit\custom file?
Oh, and the reason I thought I required a template for the new document was that CTRL-N brought me to the selection dialog box. The choice was either giving it a template or hitting "New" -- and I assumed that 'new' meant a new template.
I eventually tried the New button (I was flailing at that point) and that gave me the aforementioned set of FM's default paragraph tags.
Anyway, thanks again.
Best,
JP
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