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Scroll bar not showing relative size correctly

Jul 8, 2012 9:44 PM

I'm not sure of the correct terminology so please bear with me. In CS4 when I zoomed in on an image, the bar at the bottom would show the size of the image now on screen relative to the full size. i.e. if I go from 50% to 100% the bar would be half the size indicating that I am only seeing half the image. At least I think that was the case in CS4.

 

Here's and example from CS6.

 

  1. Open an image, choose "Command-0" to make it fill the window, and the percentage is 48.16%. The bar at the bottom is not there, but if it was I assume it would fill the width of the window.
  2. I select "Command-+" to zoom in, and the percentage goes to 50%. The bar now fills about 30% of the window width indicating that I have zoomed in a whole lot, but I haven't. There is only a little bit of image on either side not visible, the rest is a huge grey area extending left right, and up and down.

 

How do I make the bar indicate the true amount of zoom, and how do I get rid of that grey area?

 
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 8, 2012 11:13 PM   in reply to Guy Burns

    Could you please post screenshots with the Anvigator Panel visible, too?

    Which OS etc.?

     
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    Jul 9, 2012 1:49 AM   in reply to Guy Burns

    Why don’t you just post the images on this site?

     
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    Jul 9, 2012 2:24 AM   in reply to Guy Burns

    The images may be displayed smaller on the Forum, but by clicking them one can usually view the full image.

     

    I work with Photoshop CS6 on Mac OS 10.6.8, too, but I don’t seem to be able to reproduce the behaviour.

    What have you done trouble-shooting-wise so far (OpenGL, Preferences, …)?

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 9, 2012 6:11 AM   in reply to Guy Burns

    Yes, it's working as designed.

     

    There's a feature called "overscrolling" which allows you to scroll past the edge of the document, and it's only available when the document is larger than the displayable area.  You'll see it work if you zoom an image to be *just* larger than your space and use the (what seems like too-short) scroll bar.

     

    This inconsistency, between when the document will all fit in the displayable area, and when it exceeds the space, is the real root of the problem.

     

    People have complained about this for a long time, and Adobe doesn't listen.  Thing is, some folks would like to be able to scoll or pan to offset an image that DOES all fit so as to be able to comfortably sketch on the edge - or for whatever reason.  That would make it more consistent. 

     

    Here's a reproduction of the problem, and scroll of the image that's slightly bigger than the window to illustrate:

     

    Here the image all fits - no scroll bars:

    Scroll1.jpg

     

     

    Here the image has been zoomed in a little more - the scroll bars have appeared and are about 1/3 the size of the image:

    Scroll2.jpg

     

     

    Here the image has been scrolled almost to the limit of the horizontal scroll bar:

    Scroll3.jpg

      

    It's working as designed. That doesn't mean the design is right,

     

    -Noel

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 9, 2012 6:40 AM   in reply to Guy Burns

    EXACTLY.  It's inconsistent.

     

    You should know that it's been this way for many major version releases.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:32 PM   in reply to Guy Burns

    I wonder if you have the Application Frame turned on in cs6?

    Window>Application Frame.

     

    I believe in cs4 and cs5 the application frame is not on by default, but in cs6 it is.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 10, 2012 7:59 PM   in reply to Guy Burns

    Guy, R_Kelly is right.

     

    I assure you on a PC this behavior is nothing new.  Keep in mind on a PC we cannot disable the Application Frame as a Mac user can.  With the application frame on overscrolling is possible.

     

    If you enable the Application Frame in your older Photoshop you'll be able to see the same thing.

     

    -Noel

     
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