Adobe Community: Releasing clipping masks in InDesign?

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1. Bob Levine,

Apr 9, 2009 6:22 AM in reply to r_tist

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You're going to have to give us a bit more...what kind of image? How did it get clipped? InDesign clipping path? Photoshop clipping path?

Did you simply place it in a shaped frame?

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2. Marvin Sable,

Apr 9, 2009 6:42 AM in reply to r_tist

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if you're referring to text wrap's ability to honor the shape of a clipping path you just choose not to detect the edges of the graphic (in the text wrap panel) and it will ignore the clipping path. If you're not referring to text wrap we need more info.

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3. [Jongware],

Apr 9, 2009 7:17 AM in reply to r_tist

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Perhaps the OP has altered the frame of an imported image.

It's perfectly possible to place an image and then adjust the frame, using the white arrow. That could count as 'clipping mask' -- you can simulate its behavior. It does not work exactly the same as in, say, Illustrator, because inside InDesign you have no choice: an image cannot appear 'on its own', it must have a frame. Compare to a piece of text -- you cannot place a single character somewhere without a frame to put it in.

If you messed up a frame, ID can reset it. Select the object; in the Object menu or in the context menu, under "Fitting", select "Fit Frame to Content".

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4. AnneMarie Concepcion,

May 16, 2009 6:17 AM in reply to r_tist

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It doesn't look as if this question was ever answered.

I'm guessing by Clipping Mask you mean clipping paths ... the kind you draw in Photoshop with the pen tool to create silhouettes.

To release a clipping path in ID, select the placed image and choose Object > Clipping Path > Options. Then from the Path dropdown menu you find in the dialog box, choose None.

If you really do mean clipping masks ... like what you create in Illustrator via Edit > Clipping Mask > Make ... the problem is that there's nothing to release in InDesign. The artwork that is masked is cropped at the mask boundaries when you place it in InDesign.

hope that helps

AM

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5. quoz,

Jul 11, 2012 11:54 AM in reply to AnneMarie Concepcion

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Anyone still out there? I have a similar problem using INDesign CS5 (7.0.4) on Mac OS X (10.6.8).

I have some simple drawn illustrations in InDesign. I grouped them and put a drop shadow on them; however, the shadow extends into another part of the drawing that I don't want covered by the shadow. So I created a box to limit the extent of the shadow, and cut/pasted my shadowed illustrations into the box (Edit/Paste Into), and now the box effectively stops the shadow where I need it to stop. Perfect.

However... Now I've been asked to edit the items within the box.

First problem:

I can't find a way to "release" the clipping path, similar to Illustrator. The two choices under Object/Clipping Path are greyed out, and they don't seem particularly relevant anyway to my problem. So Instead I try to work within it; thereby encountering the...

Second problem:

One thing I want to do is ungroup the illustrations (yes I know I'd lose the shadow effect if I DO ungroup. Specifically what I'm trying to do is remove the shadow from one object within the group). I double-click on the box, and now INDesign shows the grouped illustrations as selected (dotted box). Although the Effects palette does indicate I'm working with a group, Ungroup is greyed out.

Again, these are drawn vector illustrations within the "clipping path", not a placed image.

So the basic question is: How do I "release" such a clipping path containing vector objects?

And If I don't do that, is there any way to remove the shadow from one element of the group?

Thanks.

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6. mjarrott,

Jul 11, 2012 12:53 PM in reply to quoz

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Can you post a screen shot of the problem, please?

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7. quoz,

Jul 11, 2012 1:53 PM in reply to mjarrott

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I am attaching a screen shot JPG, but that really won't "show" the problem ... The white word and the blue/green logo are grouped, with effect added, and pasted into the rounded shape that prevents the shadow from bleeding onto the white. (None of the text is fonts; they're all outlines.).

I think you could recreate the issue by creating a few objects, grouping them, adding a shadow and then pasting it all into a box...?

Thank you!

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8. mjarrott,

Jul 11, 2012 2:14 PM in reply to quoz

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So, I recreated your problem and found what I think could be a solution. Your main problem is that you need to take the drop shadow off of just one of the element in that group (say for example, you don't need the shadow for the leaf image).

Using the Selection tool, double-click your rounded shape to enter inside of it. Then with the Direct Selection tool, select the element that you want to remove the shadow from, choose copy and then delete that element. Again, with the Selection tool, re-enter your rounded shape frame, and double-click your grouped elements and choose Paste In Place.

For me, this placed the element back inside the group but without a shadow and without deleting the shadow from the other objects in the group.

Does this work for you?

Michael.

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9. Peter Spier,

Jul 11, 2012 2:11 PM in reply to quoz

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You should be able to double-click with the selection tool to select the group inside the frame, and then double-click a member of the group to select it.

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10. quoz,

Jul 11, 2012 2:30 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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Michael, that worked! Thank you!

Seems rather odd that there is no way to just "release" the element that is acting as a clipping path, like can be done in Illustrator, but this workaround is a good solution to this particular problem.

Peter, I had tried what you said, but once I had the white word selected, I couldn't figure out how to make the shadow go away. All the Effects palette said was "Group: Normal 100%" ; the shadow effect was not listed. (And the Ungroup command was greyed out. So you apparently can't ungroup vector elements when they are within the "clipping path".)

It's just awkward all around... What I expected to be able to do was either:

- select/edit multiple individual elements and edit them, including ungrouping or removing effects, or

- "release" the elements from the rounded "box" shape, ungroup and make changes to the individual elements as needed, and then "reapply" the clipping path.

This isn't the first time I've wanted to "release" such a clipping path in INDesign. Guess I just find myself expecting behavior a little more similar to Illustrator.

Thanks again.

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11. Peter Spier,

Jul 11, 2012 2:37 PM in reply to quoz

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Two things...

First, you could have remove the shadow from the group, then selected the logo and reapplied it to just that. No muss, no fuss.

Second, "paste into" does not create a clipping path or mask in ID the way it does in Illustrator, so there's nothing to release. The effect is similar to placing an image in a frame.

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12. mjarrott,

Jul 11, 2012 2:45 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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Additionally, a frame can only contain one object at a time. That's why you could not ungroup your objects within the frame.

Glad to help,

Michael.

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13. quoz,

Jul 11, 2012 3:32 PM in reply to Peter Spier

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Yep, I was just expecting it to act like Illustrator, and couldn't get my brain out of THAT "box."

Sometimes I wish I could throw a party for everyone who ever helped me via the Internet. (Wouldn't that be ... interesting?? But there might be a bit of a logistics problem... )

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