I made a DVD of a slide show with music, etc. in Photoshop Elements 6. Then I bought a new computer with Windows 7 installed. I tried to import it into my new Adobe Premiere Elements 10 so that I could add a menu and rolling credits. I had a live chat with a tech and he said my DVD file was a.dat file which is not supported by Windows 7. He advised me to get a free Video Converter and change the file extension. I neglected to ask him what a safe converter would be and what file to change it to.
I have just purchased a HP computer, model #h8-1214. Processor AMD FX(tm)-6100 6-core processor 3.30 Ghz. Installed Memory 10.0 GB, System type 64-bit operating system. Windows 7 Premium home/Service pack 1.
I have heard you have to be careful downloading stuff from the internet and I am at a loss as to which converter will do the job and what file extension should I change it to?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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>live chat with a tech and he said my DVD file was a.dat file
Put your DVD in your computer drive and exit from autoplay... open Windows Explorer and go to the DVD... report back with what files you see on the DVD
I do not know what you use to convert a "dat" file... but 1st let's be sure of exactly what you have
The file is listed as AVSEQ01.dat. I was trying to backup the slideshow as I knew I was going to get a new computer.
The other files listed were CDI, EXT, MPEGAV. SEGMENT and VCD. I opened MPEGAV to get the AVSDEQ01.dat
The backup program came with my XP operating system for my old computer. I think that is what I used. Can't be sure. Could have been in the Adobe Elements Program.
Am I correct that you have yet to burn a DVD from that SlideShow?
Had you done that, and then copied over the DVD production, it would have been a VIDEO_TS folder (maybe with two more), and then VOB, IFO and BUP files inside that VIDEO_TS folder.
I have never used Photoshop Elements to do a SlideShow, but if I understand correctly, there are basically two ways to do that, if one wishes to edit the SlidShow in Premiere Elements: either Export the SlideShow from PSE as a WMV file, and Import that into a PrE Project (but one cannot do a lot of editing then, and that file will be heavily-compressed), or one can Send to PrE, if the version numbers match. My guess is that is where the DAT file comes from - you probably did not have a corresponding version of PrE, to match you PSE 6.0.
However, someone else will have to tell us if that is the format, that PSE uses to get a SlideShow to PrE.
I do know that Nero's player can play some audio/video files, wrapped in a DAT format, but I am not sure if that would handle yours. Even if it would, it would still need to be ripped, to get to the MPEG-2 files, that are created for a DVD.
One thing that does puzzle me is the DAT format. I see that often for system files, but also for some e-mail attachments from Word to Outlook, and then e-mailed. Those, however are quite small, and I only see them pop up for small JPEG Images.
Good luck, and hope that Neale, or others, will know the workings of PSE much better than I do.
As Hunt said, you would have a video VOB file if you had created a "movie style" DVD
Since you appear to have some kind of Photoshop Elements file, you might want to ask for conversion help in that forum
The IDEAL format to edit in Premiere Elements is DV AVI type II with 16bit 48khz sound
>One thing that does puzzle me is the DAT format
This is only a GUESS but a Photoshop Elements slideshow DVD (he did say he had created a DVD) may consist of an autorun leading to an EXE, and the exe then operates the dat file
Like the developer version of Microsoft Access creates a runtime to open the Access MDB file
I had not considered that possibility.
Not sure what Bernice has in that DAT, but it might contain the entire PSE SlideShow. Where my lack of knowledge shows, is that I have never used PSE to do a SlideShow.
Most users, who do, either have both PSE & PrE, of the same versions, and usually employ a rather direct route, sor of like ADL (Adobe Dynamic Link), say between After Effects and PrPro, or maybe PrPro and Encore.
I did a bit of research, going to Steve Grisetti's combo PSE/PrE book, but for SlideShows, he mainly tells one how to do it, and the pluses and minuses of the WMV Export vs the direct Send to PrE method. I found no reference to using unmatched versions of the two programs, other than the Export to WMV method, out of PSE. Still, I am hoping that he will drop by this thread, and offer his expertise - or that another user, maybe with mis-matched versions of the programs, will explain the process, and maybe identify the DAT file.
I feel that I am going to learn something in this thread.
Good luck to Bernice,
Should I install my version of Photoshop 6 and try to get the DVD into that? I am really disgusted with this whole problem. I thought I could backup my slideshow and just put the darn thing into Version 10. It was not even my choice to get a new program or a new computer. I spent a lot of time getting this slide show made and I have a few others to do because I have about 600 pictures from baby days to graduation and beyond.
I don't like Windows 7 so far! I think these makers of computers and programs just keep making new ones to keep the money coming in. I hope I have given you guys enough information.
I would definitely install PSE, and Open your SlideShow. If you do not have the Export option "Send to PrE," then you should be able to Export as a WMV, and just create a New Project in PrE, using one of the DV settings, that matches, both your country (PAL, or NTSC), and Standard 4:3, or Widescreen 16:9, depending on what you used for that SlideShow. For Audio, choose 48KHz 16-bit.
Once done, and in that Project (named and located, as you desire), just go to Media>Get Media, navigate to that WMV file, and choose it for Import. When it has Imported (make sure to let the Audio Conforming complete 100%, if you have any Audio/music in the SlideShow), then drag it to the empty Timeline.
Go to Create Menus and choose the Menu Set that you desire. If you need Chapter Markers for navigation, add those to the Timeline. You will need a Menu Marker at the beginning of the Timeline. Do not put any Stop Markers at the end of the Timeline.
Preview your DVD.
Then, choose Burn to Disc, and test it on your computer and a stand-alone DVD player.
>install my version of Photoshop 6
Do be aware that such an earlier version MAY mean you will have to use a Windows 7 compatibility mode to run the older program
Search http://search.microsoft.com/search.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US for information on the Win7 compatibility mode
I'm sorry ,but you guys are talking way over my head. I understand most of Bill's e-mail and may try it. However, I don't understand about compatibility mode. I went to the web sight and was lost in a fog.
If I just install my version of Photoshop Elements 6, will I be able to get the DVD from the DVD drive into that program? You definitely don't think getting a video converter will solve the problem. This isn't really a video-just a slide show.
OK... a search at the link I posted before leads to...
You will need that page IF your old program does not work with Windows 7
IF (and that is a big IF) what you have on that DVD-Data disc contains the PSE SlideShow Project (I worry that your DAT is not what you want, but do not know), then you might be able to Open that file in PSE, when you install it.
What you do not seem to have is a DVD-Video, so ripping that, will likely not do what you need.
Now, you mentioned a "backup" program. Could it have written the DAT file, which might need to be "recovered?"
I am still puzzled by that DAT format.
I am getting more and more mixed up. This is the case. I made a slide show in Photoshop Elements 6. Copied ( backed it up ) to a DVD. When I put the disk in my computer it will play. When I put in in the disc player for the TV it will play on the TV. The only thing I can't get it to do is go into either Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 or Premiere Elements 10. I"m beginning to think I need to start all over. Not a happy thought. I wish you guys were here to solve the problem. I feel like Adobe is not playing fair with all their new programs.
I made a slide show in Photoshop Elements 6. Copied ( backed it up ) to a DVD. When I put the disk in my computer it will play. When I put in in the disc player for the TV it will play on the TV. The only thing I can't get it to do is go into either Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 or Premiere Elements 10. I"m beginning to think I need to start all over.
OK... let's step back for a minute and look at what you have (poor example coming)
What you have is a loaf of bread... it consists of flour and water and eggs and yeast... and time in an oven at 350 degrees to convert "dough" to "bread"
Your "project" (which consisted of the raw ingredients) no longer exists... unless you happen to have your old computer stuck in the back of a closet
What you are trying to do now is convert your "bread" back to "dough" to re-make your "project" and re-bake the ingredients into a new loaf of bread
While my poor example is not "exactly" the case... since it is possible to re-edit the video VOB files from a finished DVD in Premiere Elements... it does not appear that you may open and edit the DAT file in Photoshop Elements to re-do your old project
Did you ever ask about converting the DAT file in the Photoshop Elements forum?
If conversion is even possible, I still think someone in that forum would know more than someone in this video forum (unless, of course, someone who also uses PE happens along and reads this message thread)
If you can't find a program that will convert your finished "loaf of bread" DVD back to "dough" compenent parts... then, yes, you will need to start over
For starting over, or a new slideshow project, you need to read in the Photoshop Elements manual how you make a backup of your PROJECT (and all the necessary files that are used in the project) so you may make project changes at a later date
This note http://forums.adobe.com/thread/919388?tstart=0 is for a video project, but Bill Hunt's idea MAY also be useful when designing a Photoshop project... to make it easy to copy everything to an external USB hard drive as a backup
Sorry I can't help more... I have a LONG list of possible programs to convert video files from one format to another, but nothing for Photoshop slideshows... so do ask in the other forum to see if someone there knows more
OK... Google knows everything... I entered "photoshop elements dat file" (without the " " marks)
Early reference to http://www.irfanview.com/ which is a VERY good, and free program (send the author a PayPal donation if you like the program) as a possible conversion solution
Also lots of other references that I did not click... so you might do a Google and see what you find
I started with Photoshop Elements forum and they sent me here. And I do have the old computer in my closet. They transferred everything they could to my new computer. They only thing they couldn't touch were the individual programs like Adobe. They figured I would have to reinstall them.
Thanks for your help. It sounds as if you have done everything possible for me. I just don't know when the company Adobe has no solutions. That is one reason I still had Version 6 I was working with happily. I got tired of them coming out with a new version and ending any help for me as soon as the new version came out.
P. S. Is it possible for them to get what I need from my old computer. I have a paid up membership for help at Best Buy. That is one reason the kid there didn't keep my old case. He gave it back and said to make sure I had everything off of it I wanted before I junked it. They don't know anything about different programs. I think I could reformat it and have another computer.
I'm not trying to remake my project. If you make a slideshow in Elements you then send it to Premiere to finish. I just made a DVD of the slide show and thought I could send it to Premiere. May be I should install Premiere 6 and send it there. If I could find a way.
I just made a DVD of the slide show and thought I could send it to Premiere.
If that process had produced a DVD-Video, then you could just Import the VOB's into PrE, and edit some more.
It appears that you ended up with a DVD-Data, containing that DAT file, plus some others. Have you tried either Opening, or Importing that into PrE on the new computer? If so, what error messaged did you get?
Remember, I do not know PSE, but I did not think that it had the direct capability to burn to DVD, and that one had to use PrE, or another program to do so. Did you perhaps use another program to burn that disc? If so, can you recall what that might have been?
When you first posted to the PSE forum, did you get any useful comments about it using the DAT file? Do you have a link to that PSE forum thread? I'll be happy to read over that, and see if maybe someone had a useful comment, that perhaps you missed.
What I h ave is a burned DVD of the slideshow. I think it was burned as "output" from Photoshop elements 6. Not yet sent to Premiere. I felt I should have been able to run the DVD and at least get it into the same version of Premiere 6
You are entirely right about the corresponding version. I made it in Version 6 and am trying to get it into version 10.Maybe I should reinstall both Elements 6 and Premiere 6 and try something there. I still don't know how to get the DVD from my DVD port into any version. There is nothing that gives that option,. I tried to drag it in Windows Explorer from the DVD drive to the program..
You guys have really tried to help me and I appreciate it. and if you have any other suggestions I will be happy to try them. I haven't done anything yet because I was waiting to come to one solution. If you know anyone else who might know the answer let me know.
By the way I still have my old computer in the closet. Most things were transferred to my new computer.
What do you use to make a slideshow?
What I have is a burned DVD of the slideshow. I think it was burned as "output" from Photoshop elements 6.
See, you taught ME something here. I did not know that PSE could burn a DVD. Thanks for that.
If no other program was employed in the production of that SlideShow, and it came directly from PSE, let's try another step.
I tried to drag it in Windows Explorer from the DVD drive to the program..
Insert your DVD into your new computer's multi-drive. If it starts to AutoPlay, just stop it. We do not want it in use by a player program. In Windows Explorer, create a new Folder, and name it "SlideShow," without the " marks. Now, Copy the contents of that DVD to your HDD (Hard Disk Drive), and into that new SlideShow folder.
Here I am going to make a guess, as I have never worked with a SlideShow from PSE, but launch PrE and at New Project, choose NTSC, or PAL (depending on where you live), DV either Widescreen 16:9, or Standard 4:3 (depending on how you created the PSE SlideShow) w/ 48KHz 16-bit Audio. Then, go to Media>Get Media>Files and Folders. Navigate to that SlideShow folder. Does that DAT file show in the little Finder window in Get Media? If so, choose it to Import it, and X your fingers. If it does not show we'll try two more things: There is a file type drop-down, and it should give you the option of All Files. Try that Import again, as now the DAT should show. Remember to X those fingers again. If that does not work, then navigate back to the HDD, showing the SlideShow folder, and try to Import that folder w/ its contents.
If you receive any error messages in any of these tests, take some time, and write them down exactly as they appear, then post those error messages here.
Good luck, and my fingers will be X'ed in Arizona, USA, hoping you the best.
>They transferred everything they could to my new computer. They only thing they couldn't touch were the individual programs like Adobe
Like Hunt, I've never used Photoshop Elements... BUT... I think you are confusing the cart with the horse
Not counting the DVD you created, your old computer should still have the original data files (pictures and sound files) and the PE project file
A project file is what tells PE what you are doing... such as "load pictures A+B+C and sound file 1+2 and make a slideshow where each picture shows onscreen for X number of seconds"
If at all possible, you want to copy your project file (for Premiere Elements, that is a .PREL file) and original data files to your new computer
Then, you see if you can open the project file in your newer Photoshop Elements
Again with the poor example...
A computer project file is similar to a cooking recipe... you need to get that recipe copied over to be able to continue cooking
I agree. What I have no clue, concerning, is how PSE creates a SlideShow, and what possible format might be involved.
I use Photoshop, and know all of the possible formats that it can handle, but it does not do SlideShows. Only PSE (in the Photoshop family) does that. I know how both PrE and PrPro do SlideShows, and that is with the common PREL (or PRPROJ - PrPro) files from PrE.
Thank you for that info. Is that directly from PS CS6, or from Bridge CS6?
By chance, do you happen to know if, when one creates a SlideShow in Photoshop Elements, that SlideShow is created as a DAT file?
I hate Windows 7!
I have been trying all morning to just get my DVD into a folder named slideshow in my documents. I made a folder named slideshow and tried to copy from the DVD drive and it started copying all kinds of stuff that wasn't even on the DVD. I decided instead of pestering you about it that I would read my book on Windows 7.I thought I had it down. Not!
I hate the libraries! You may have to take me by the hand and tell me exactly what to do.. I thought you had. It just shouldn't be that hard to copy from a disc drive to a folder. I have done it in Windows XP with no problem. Apparently I made the folder in the wrong place or something. HELP!
Forgot to tell you. When I highlight my DVD drive in Windows Explorer I get two items, One "files currently on the Disc (5) and File ready to be written to the disk (16) The last one includes documents, music, new library?, Pictures, and Videos. I didn't think I asked to write those to a disk.
Boy, I'm getting quite a following. I appreciate everyone trying to help.
I am so confused now that I don't know how to post a screen shot. However, as has been shown in previous e-mails these are the files that are on the DVD. CDI, EXT, MPEAV ( which shows this is a .dat file), SEGMENT and VCD. Is that what you wanted?
Your disk is a VCD. There's a ton of stuff on the Internet about VCD if you Google it. But here's a link to one answering the question "convert vcd to dvd".
A more generic search gives other links to conversion possibilities:
A specific free converter that popped up is "DVD Flick". Although its site does not mention VCD a post on another forum suggests it can do it.
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I think that Neale has provided help for the DVD that you have. I would never have thought of the possibility of a VCD disc. I hope that your SlideShow IS there, and that with some of the conversion programs, that Neale linked to, you can convert that to a DVD-Video, where you can just Import the VOB files (contain the MPEG-2 DVD audio-video files, possibly spanned, depending on the size, and maybe some Menu navigation, if PSE does light authoring).
For Win7, I cannot help you, as I am still on XP-Pro. Sounds like I will need to prepare myself for Win7!
Though it might not be needed now, since Neale got to the bottom of things, but if you DO need to post a screen-cap, then this ARTICLE might be useful.
Looks like you were correct - you do need a conversion program, but one to convert from VCD to DVD-Video.
Good luck, and let us know when you do get your SlideShow into PrE.
Are you telling me my DVD is not a.dat file but a VCD file? Just wondering before I download a converter. And do I convert it to a DVD-Video or what? I have Windows 7 and am trying to put this into Adobe Premiere Version 10. Or since I made this slide show on Adobe Element 6 should I reinstall the Premiere that goes with that version
You've got to stop thinking about the individual files on your disk. In the same way that multiple .vob, .bup, and.ifo files together make a single DVD so all the individual files on your disk make a single VCD.
So if you use a converter you should only need to point it at the disk, not the individual files in it.
Here's a couple of links from my favourite free software site:
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