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install disappearing from FireFox 11.0 - 4 times a day

Jul 10, 2012 2:18 PM

Tags: #installs #w2000 #dissapearing

Hi,

I need to state first that I am usng w2000 SP5. This is a clean install, with no mal-ware. I understand that the OS is not supported. But, my other computer has a defective motherboard and unable to replace it now.

I am using the last version of Firefoc that was available for w2000, ( ver 11.0 )

I have modified Firefox NOT to UPDATE plugins. (Because new plugins dont;'t work in W2000.Firefox 11.0)

I have installed the last verson of Flash that works in W2000 also. ( fp_10.1.102.64_and_9.0.289.0_archive )

All works as normal. No crashes. No issues.

Except, that the install magiclally dissappears as a plugin from FireFox.

It disappears 3 or 4 times a day. Usually after I open Firefox a few hours later.

But, it is still in installed Programs list on computer.

I have been re-installing it everytime, which is VERY annoying.

I have disabled Flash from automatic updates also.

There must be something that is checking to install a new version, and deleting my current install.

But, I can't find it.

I have tried many versions of flash, and all do the same thing.

So, I believe the problem is in FireFox.

I am posting my problem there also.

Please help me. TIA

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1. Chris Campbell,

Jul 10, 2012 2:43 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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It sounds like you might be running into a Windows permission issue, please try the instructions in this FAQ:

How do I fix Windows permission problems with Flash Player?

Thanks,
Chris

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2. DigitalDave_,

Jul 10, 2012 3:47 PM in reply to Chris Campbell

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Multiple missing file errors running the batch file ...

MSVCP60.dll not in program path

I searched C: drive .... no such file

Did the batch file run succesfully without this file?

Is this file Ok to download for Windows 2000 pro SP5 ?

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3. Chris Campbell,

Jul 10, 2012 3:53 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Odd, the SubInACL application from Microsoft (which is what the batch file calls) says that Win2k should be supported. When Flash Player disappears, check to see what files are present in your windows\system32\macromed\flash folder. I'm curious if the files are actually uninstalled. You might want to compare the contents of this folder when it's working and then again when it's not.

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4. Pat Willener,

Jul 10, 2012 6:57 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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DigitalDave_ wrote:

Is this file Ok to download for Windows 2000 pro SP5 ?
Never download DLL files from the Internet; they may not match your installed OS, and just downloading them will not register them properly.

Download and install the Visual C++ redistributable to obtain the missing files: http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc60pro/Update/1/W9XNT4/EN-US/V C6RedistSetup_enu.exe

SubInACL is fully supported on Windows 2000; the folder to check for Flash Player on W2K is C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash

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5. DigitalDave_,

Jul 11, 2012 6:24 AM in reply to Pat Willener

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Your diagnosis seems to spot on target.

Preliminary results are good.
Clicking "Ok" to the missing file ( about 40 or 50 times ) until the batch file completed seems to have worked Ok.

I will post back in a few days. .... all is good so far.

And, I will post this at Mozilla, if this problem is resloved

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6. DigitalDave_,

Jul 12, 2012 7:27 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Edited _____________________

It just happened again ....

The contents of the C:\WINNT\system32\Macromed\Flash Folder - Ok.
Contents are still present.

So, this means its a FireFox problem?

At least it was 3 days later , and not 4 times a day ...

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7. Pat Willener,

Jul 12, 2012 7:31 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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It is time to give us some more information: what makes you think that Flash Player disappears? What are the exact symptoms?

Can you still see the Flash animation at http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html - or what do you see instead?

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8. DigitalDave_,

Jul 12, 2012 7:56 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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"
Download and install the Visual C++ redistributable to obtain the missing files: http://download.microsoft.com/download/vc60pro/Update/1/W9XNT4/EN-US/V C6RedistSetup_enu.exe

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This download does not install ... It unpacked a file called " vcredist.exe " size 1,765kb.
Clicking file does nothing.

As for 'disappearing" .... It is not listed as a plugin in Firefox 11.0
This is the last version of Firefox that works with W2K.
And, since I had to re-install ( for Firefox ) I instaled the 10.1.102.64 version again.

As I mentioned before, Flash is still listed in installed programs. And, this time I have confirmed the files install still exist in the system32 folder.

You will have to wait until it is gone again..... before I can use your test page.
But I believe it will show it is not installed in Firefox.

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9. DigitalDave_,

Jul 12, 2012 8:06 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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You can follow the discussion at Mosilla ... here ...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/931884

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10. DigitalDave_,

Jul 13, 2012 2:28 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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It just "disappeared" again in the middle of browsing.
No warnings, no messages, just gone.

1 System32 still has files.

2 Tools: Add-ons: Plugins: -- Missing.

3 Help : Troubleshooter - Enabled Plugins: Not Listed.

Is there a way to "Hard Code" the "swf" extension to the System32 folder?
I'm waiting this time for someone to help BEFORE I GO INSANE.

To: Pat Willener

Noting shows in the test page, ( As expected )

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11. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 8:52 AM in reply to DigitalDave_

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THIS IS NOT A FIREFOX PROBLEM

I installed Opera yesterday, thinking that it was Firefox that was rejecting the flash plugin.
Well, just a few minutes ago, the Opera flash plugin disappeared also.
So, I opened Firefox, and it was gone there too !.

LETS SEE IF WE CAN FIX THIS !

All the contents of the system32 folder still intact.
Flash still listed in Windows installed programs.

Where do I get the MSVCP60.dll file required to run the windows permission fix properly?

The ball is in YOUR court !

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12. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 9:11 AM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Apparently MS is unaware the download is non-functional or corrupted,

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/259403

Ok, so I see the files in the vcredist.exe file when I use WinZip
How do I install these properly?
Is it Ok just to unzip them to the system32 foder?

HELP !!!!

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13. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 2:51 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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I unzipped the contents of vcredist.exe to a temporary folder.
There I noticed 2 more EXEs

50comupd.exe = Checks version of "Common Controls" - Mine was OK
PreSetup.exe = Does not execute

I also noticed VCRedist.inf.
So, I installed from this file.
Did a search for MSVCP60.dll, and was properly placed in system32.
Rebooted

I executed the SubInACL batch file fix.
No errors.
Rebooted

Ok, so time will tell if this fixes my problem.

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14. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 7:12 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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My high hopes were just dashed ....
... Plugin gone again.

This is so bad, I have a shortcut on my desktop to reinstall.

Has no one have any diagnostic talent ?

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15. Pat Willener,

Jul 14, 2012 8:03 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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DigitalDave_ wrote:

I executed the SubInACL batch file fix.
No errors.
And you reinstalled Flash Player (hopefully using a clean install) after that?

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16. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 10:03 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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The uninstaller does not execute on my system ...

System error popup ... screenshot here

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/hTxsVQRdEp5jINARbzZVkNMTjNZETYmyP Jy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

The procedure entry point SetDllDirectoryW could not be located in the dynamic link library KERNEL32.dll

I have tried this uninstaller many times before ... never worked on my W2k computer.

I did not do a re-install after running the fix.
It clearly says "if you were not able to install ... do so now "

I only re-booted.

Please be specific in the steps, and I will execute them.

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17. DigitalDave_,

Jul 14, 2012 11:10 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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http://forums.adobe.com/thread/965334

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3120661

As per your last comment on that topic ...
Apparently, W2K users are not important anymore.

Yes, W2000 is old, and MS does not support it.
However, they still have all the Service Packs and fixes available on thier website.

This computer I'm writing with to you now, is the MOST RELIABLE COMPUTER I EVER BUILT.
( I did a Dual Boot with W7, and the OS would not install with the hardware.)

My W7 x64 computer has had 3 motherboard failures in 4 years.
( I stated in my OP that I am unable to replace it now )

Your support staff should be able to dig up the old un-installer that works for W2K, and leave a link for those who still have working W2K computers.
( Or include the uninstaller in the ZIP file archives )

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18. Pat Willener,

Jul 15, 2012 12:00 AM in reply to DigitalDave_

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DigitalDave_ wrote:

Your support staff should be able to dig up the old un-installer that works for W2K, and leave a link for those who still have working W2K computers.
It is possible to find old uninstaller versions, but they won't work with new Flash Player versions. Each released uninstaller only works with the current version at the time, and all previous ones, but not with future versions.

This post http://forums.adobe.com/message/4427736#4427736 contains detailed instructions how to change that dll, so that the uninstaller/installer works on Windows 2000.

W2K was a very stable OS, and I have until very recently used it on my laptopc computer. Hadn't it broken down, I would probably still be using it. But on the other hand, I would not be able to use more and more software, like the latest Firefox, Google Earth, Picasa, and whatnot.

Developers want to move forward with new technologies, and keeping old technologies in the software will make them unnecessary large, and likely less performant.

PCs have a limited lifespan, and the likelyhood that W2K is still used becomes less and less. I am sure that XP will continue to be supported by many software vendors for quite some time to come, but even XP will some day fade out.

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19. Pat Willener,

Jul 15, 2012 12:05 AM in reply to DigitalDave_

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P.S. this topic contains a shorter summary of how to change the W2K DLL: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1012569

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20. DigitalDave_,

Jul 15, 2012 5:45 AM in reply to Pat Willener

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Ok, so I created a uninstaller HACK that is invokable.
However I did not run it yet.

I need you to be specific in the steps that you beleive will fix my problem.
From what I interpret, you want me to :

1. Run the uninstaller HACK.
2. Re-boot
3. Remove any files remaining that the uninstaller was suposed to remove.
4. Re-boot
5. Run the permisions fix batch file.
6. Re-boot.
7. Install Flash.
8. Re-boot.

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21. Pat Willener,

Jul 15, 2012 6:22 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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I think only one reboot (2.) is required in this sequence.

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22. DigitalDave_,

Jul 15, 2012 9:28 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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I cleaned up, ran the fix, and re-installed after it "disappeared" again tonight.

... wait and see now ...

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23. DigitalDave_,

Jul 16, 2012 1:54 AM in reply to Pat Willener

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THIS DID NOT FIX MY PROBLEM !

IT IS GONE AGAIN !

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24. DigitalDave_,

Jul 16, 2012 1:47 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Maybe this problem is with validation certificates and ActiveX controls.

I also have this problem at MS.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-windows _update/error-code-0x800b0109-is-displayed-when-visiting/a75a5d8c-deb0 -4b39-9982-42f0a72ad848?auth=1

There is no way to uninstall IE6, However if you re-execute the installer there is a option to re-install.
I have just re-installed IE6, and all its runtime componects.

But, I still have the error code in windows update.

Maybe I can write over IE6 with IE 5.5 on my OS install disk.

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25. DigitalDave_,

Jul 16, 2012 4:10 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Was unable to "rollback" to 5.5
Howver, I did "rollback" the defective ActiveX.

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26. Pat Willener,

Jul 16, 2012 6:33 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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DigitalDave_ wrote:

But, I still have the error code in windows update.
You never mentioned that before.

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27. Pat Willener,

Jul 16, 2012 6:35 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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DigitalDave_ wrote:

Was unable to "rollback" to 5.5
I'd say that is good; IE5.5 was the worst version in the history of that browser.

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28. DigitalDave_,

Jul 17, 2012 12:12 AM in reply to Pat Willener

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Pligin "disappeared" again.

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29. DigitalDave_,

Jul 17, 2012 2:08 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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I tried a different order to the fix after posting here, and it did not work either.

1. Uninstaller hack.
2.delete directories
3. 2 different Registry cleaners.
4. Install
5. Run permisions fix.

"Disappeared" again a few minutes ago.

Is anyone reading or thinking of something to try?

I'm going to install the IE version with the non-IE version this time.
To see if it "disappears" from IE6 at the same time.

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30. DigitalDave_,

Jul 17, 2012 2:19 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Permissions Fix Log _______________________

rm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ProgID : delete Pe
rm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ProgID : new ace f
or builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\ProgID : 3 change(s)
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programm able : del
ete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programm able : del
ete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Programm able : new
ace for builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\Programmable : 3 change(s)
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxB itmap32 :
delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxB itmap32 :
delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\ToolboxB itmap32 :
new ace for builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\ToolboxBitmap32 : 3 change(s)
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : delete P
erm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : delete P
erm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\TypeLib : new ace
for builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\TypeLib : 3 change(s)
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : delete P
erm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : delete P
erm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\Version : new ace
for builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\Version : 3 change(s)
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionI ndependent
ProgID : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionI ndependent
ProgID : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\users
SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}\VersionI ndependent
ProgID : new ace for builtin\users
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444 553540000}
\VersionIndependentProgID : 3 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done:       18, Modified       18, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0
Last Done : HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\CLSID\{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-
444553540000}\VersionIndependentProgID
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Repairing Flash Player File System Permissions. One moment please...
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C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : 4 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done:        1, Modified        1, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0
Last Done : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 5 builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : 4 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : delete Perm. ACE 4 builtin\admin
istrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : new ace for builtin\administrato
rs
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\a
dministrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : new ace for builtin\administ
rators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\ad
ministrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : new ace for builtin\administr
ators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : delete Perm. ACE 2 b
uiltin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : new ace for builtin\
administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : delete Perm. ACE 2 b
uiltin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : new ace for builtin\
administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : delete Perm. ACE 2 bu
iltin\administrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : new ace for builtin\a
dministrators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\admini
strators
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : new ace for builtin\administrator
s
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : 2 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
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Last Done : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : 4 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done:        1, Modified        1, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0
Last Done : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 2 builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : 4 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : delete Perm. ACE 3 builtin\users

C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : delete Perm. ACE 1 builtin\u
sers
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashInstall.log : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : delete Perm. ACE 1 builtin\us
ers
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\flashplayer.xpt : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : delete Perm. ACE 1 b
uiltin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : new ace for builtin\
users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.dll : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : delete Perm. ACE 1 b
uiltin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : new ace for builtin\
users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_ActiveX.exe : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : delete Perm. ACE 1 bu
iltin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : new ace for builtin\u
sers
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\FlashUtil10l_Plugin.exe : 2 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : delete Perm. ACE 1 builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : new ace for builtin\users
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll : 2 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done:        8, Modified        8, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0
Last Done : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 7 nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : delete Perm. ACE 6 nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : new ace for nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed : 4 change(s)

Elapsed Time: 00 00:00:00
Done:        1, Modified        1, Failed        0, Syntax errors        0
Last Done : C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 7 nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : delete Perm. ACE 6 nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : new ace for nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash : 4 change(s)
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : delete Perm. ACE 5 nt authority\
system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : new ace for nt authority\system
C:\WINNT\System32\Macromed\Flash\Flash10l.ocx : 2 change(s)
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31. DigitalDave_,

Jul 18, 2012 5:13 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Plugin 'dispappeared' from Firefox again, but NOT from IE6.
And, It is the 2nd time it's gone after playing a game called Unreal.

Im going to search the registry after I reinstall again.
But, I dont see the point in doing the total uninstall routine anymore.

When will someone help me with this?

I will be looking at the FireFox plugin registry items after re-install.
It would be helpfull if someone could tell me where, and what to look for.

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@adobe.com/FlashPlayer]
"Path"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\NPSWF32.dll"
"ProductName"="Adobe Flash Player 10.1 Plugin"
"Vendor"="Adobe Systems Incorporated"
"Description"="Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 Plugin"
"Version"="10.1.102.64"
"XPTPath"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\flashplayer.xpt"

Why doesn't Java appear here also?

Strange

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32. Pat Willener,

Jul 18, 2012 7:21 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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I am not sure if somebody will really be able to help you; I don't think anyone of the forum regulars has W2K any more. As I wrote earlier, I had W2K until a few months ago, but that machine is hopelessly broken, and there is no way I can use it any more.

Still, I am trying as best as I can...

After the plugin disappears again: is that registry entry still there?

As for Java, on my W7 machine I have this entry:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@java.com/JavaPlugin,version=10.5.0] "Description"="Oracle® Next Generation Java™ Plug-In" "GeckoVersion"="1.9" "Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Java\\jre7\\bin\\plugin2\\npjp2.dll" "ProductName"="Oracle® Java™ Plug-In" "Vendor"="Oracle Corp." "Version"="1.7.0_05"

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33. DigitalDave_,

Jul 18, 2012 11:01 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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THESE ARE CURRENT VALUES WITH FLASH PLUGIN WORKING_____________

I did a search for "npjp2.dll" and found nothing.

However a search for 'x-java-applet" and "x-shockwave-flash" have 2 entries each. both in the same places.

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-java-applet]
"CLSID"="{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0027-ABCDEFFEDCBA}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-java-applet]
"CLSID"="{CAFEEFAC-0016-0000-0027-ABCDEFFEDCBA}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-shockwave-flash]
"Extension"=".swf"
"CLSID"="{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\MIME\Database\Content Type\application/x-shockwave-flash]
"Extension"=".swf"
"CLSID"="{D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000}"
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I discontinued the Mozzilla forum discussion after flash disappeared for Opera also.
( that determined its a flash / W2K problem )

I'm not going to wonder why Java is not in the mozilla plugins registry.
Since, I have similar entries for the "x-" applet entries.

Hopefully this is where I will see something happen, when it 'disappears" again.

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34. Pat Willener,

Jul 18, 2012 11:19 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Just on the sideline: what JRE version do you have installed? Do you see the Java plugin in Firefox (about:plugins)?

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35. DigitalDave_,

Jul 19, 2012 7:46 AM in reply to Pat Willener

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http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/KpZFAaWvl19DLuA-nYbBb9MTjNZETYmyP Jy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kbGBd1Im2ArtLeAiWcoiHdMTjNZETYmyP Jy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

Java 6 update 27 --- is the last version suported in W2K.

Firefox must be modified NOT to automatically DISABLE this plugin,
(Because it's so old )

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36. DigitalDave_,

Jul 19, 2012 5:12 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\MozillaPlugins\@adobe.com/FlashPlayer]
"Path"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\NPSWF32.dll"
"ProductName"="Adobe Flash Player 10.1 Plugin"
"Vendor"="Adobe Systems Incorporated"
"Description"="Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 Plugin"
"Version"="10.1.102.64"
"XPTPath"="C:\\WINNT\\system32\\Macromed\\Flash\\flashplayer.xpt"
_______________________________________________________________

THIS IS THE REGISTRY ITEM THAT IS MAKING THE PLUGIN "DISAPPEAR".

THIS ENTRY IS BEING DELETED FROM MY REGISTRY.

No re-install necessary, just re-apply this regisrty item.

Now, WHAT IS DELETING THIS ENTRY FROM MY REGISTRY?
How do I track this down?
Is it possible to "protect" this registry item from being deleted?

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37. Pat Willener,

Jul 19, 2012 6:12 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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Good - you got one serious step closer to resolving this mystery!

What I would do in your case was to run Process Monitor. But I just saw that it says Win XP and higher. Google for process monitor old version and you may be able to find a version that runs on W2K.

Run it until that reg entry disappears again, and you should be able to search and find what process did it. Note that if you need to run procmon for several hours, the output may be VERY large. And since we don't know what process does it, we cannot apply any filters.

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38. DigitalDave_,

Jul 19, 2012 8:45 PM in reply to Pat Willener

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I got a response from Mozilla on this.... here is the link again.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/931884#answer-353337

They don't seem to know why the key is dissapearing.
But, they are trying to tell me how to create a different way for firefox to find the files needed.

It was difficult finding the last version of ProcessMonitor for W2K.
I found it here ... Process Monitor 2.01

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/general/download_splash.cfm/process_ monitor?software_id=1359&version_id=13466

I have never seen or used this tool before. Looking forward to learning this one.

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39. Pat Willener,

Jul 19, 2012 9:03 PM in reply to DigitalDave_

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ProcMon is a very useful tool, but it monitors EVERYTHING on your system, so if no filtering can be applied, the output will be extremely large.

But I think it will be worthwhile to solve that mystery! We simply cannot have disappearing registry keys...

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