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Bookmarks not in PDF where they should be

Jan 21, 2010 3:17 PM

I have been having this problem with Frame 8 as well as in 9. When I generate my PDF, my bookmarks are not all where they should be. The will not always appear in the order of the pages, and they will be listed under other headings. An example would be, if I had 3 top level tags and each one had 5 things listed under them, When I generate, I might get 6 bookmarks under the first, 4 under the second, and 5 under the third, instead of five under each one.

 

I have done everything I can think of, and cannot come up with a reason why it is doing this? Any ideas? I can always send a section to someone so they can actually see what I am talking about. At this point, I am not 100% sure if it is Frame or Acrobat, but I am leaning towards Frame.

 

Thanks

 
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    Jan 21, 2010 8:07 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    Have you set the Bookmark levels (i.e. indenting them in the correct hierachy) in the PDF Setup? See: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSC499FA78-8A12-4222- A5D9-D5DC41DAA0C9.html#WS1BBDCED7-3125-445c-84AD-2A05910E7B61

     

    Are the selected paratags all in the same flow?

     
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    Jan 22, 2010 1:54 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    This is a huge stab in the dark, but if one connects text frames manually, especially text frames several pages away, then it might be possible to create a flow of text from page 1 to page 4 to page 7 to page 3 to page 2, etc. The resulting bookmarks and the TOC would not be in page order but in flow order.

     

    Does the TOC have the same order as the bookmarks?

     

    Again, a real stab in the dark.

     
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    Jan 22, 2010 2:27 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    So you're using multiple text flows?

     

    Are the bookmarks in order within the flows?

     
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    Mar 31, 2011 8:12 AM   in reply to garyhatt

    We are having the same problem. Did you find a solution?

     

    Thanks.

     
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    Mar 31, 2011 11:05 AM   in reply to AJCMS

    I am having the same problem. It's just with my last 2 appendices. Appendix G and H switch in the PDF file, but not in the

    TOC. I've tried manually connecting the text flows and disconnecting them, but nothing changes the PDF. ??

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 12:39 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    Has anyone figured out how to fix this? I am having the same issue, my company wants our manuals to look a certain way, so I put a text frame with specific text at the top of the page to get the bookmarks from distiller to work right. It was going great doing it that way until here recently, my bookmarks are now all out of order, I have to be very careful about watching them, it seems the first level will include the everything from the second level and below for the next chapter. I recently decided to try and change the way I generated the bookmarks, by deleting the text frame and puttin gth especific text elsewhere. That fixed it in most places, but now the very last two chapters are all whacky, I have checked and double checked flows, made physical changes in the structures, and researched for days. This is the only thread anywhere that I could find anything resembling my problem. Any Idea as to how to fix this, or whats causing this?

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 12:52 PM   in reply to sthompson@wenger.com

    Is it a structure doc ?

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:04 PM   in reply to Harry28586

    Honestly I don’t know, I think its un-structured, the only reason I don’t know exactly is because I have only had to use what was already set up here, so I haven’t seen both versions. From what I found online un-structured has paragraph formats and structured has elements. I use paragraphs so unless there is a better way of knowing exactly that I couldn’t find in a 2 minute search, I think its un-structured.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:14 PM   in reply to sthompson@wenger.com

    Have you tried that in Frame 10?

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:17 PM   in reply to Harry28586

    My company decided we didn’t need to upgrade from FrameMaker 9

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:31 PM   in reply to sthompson@wenger.com

    To change bookmark levels for the included paragraphs, select a paragraph tag and click a Bookmark Level arrow. To change the level of all items, Shift-click a Bookmark Level arrow. If the indent for a tag exceeds six levels, n> precedes the paragraph tag. n indicates the indentation level of the paragraph tag

     

     

    Harpreet.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:40 PM   in reply to Harry28586

    All of my bookmarks are set up according to the way the need to be throughout the book. Very simple Level 1: Title, Level 2: Heading1, Level 3: Heading 2, Level 4: Heading 3, Level 4:Parent Description Reference, that’s whats so baffling about this, the last three chapters are Appendix A, Appendix B and Appendix C. Appendix A shows up with all bookmarks correct, Appendix B only has one bookmark, which is level 1:Title, and Appendix C has the paragraph tags to make all the bookmarks, When saving as or printing to PDF, most of Appendix C’s bookmarks will show up under Appendix B in the PDF.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:44 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    Any idea if that translates into a fix, or at least work around for Frame 9? Sorry my FrameMaker skills are sort of limited as what I do I have been told is extremely basic use of FrameMaker

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 1:52 PM   in reply to sthompson@wenger.com

    Is Boomark Expanded throught Level selected as "None",if yes try and change it to "Default" and see if that works.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:04 PM   in reply to Harry28586

    There was a number ” 268435455” in there, I changed it to default, but the when I created the PDF the problem is still there. I am in the process of re-creating those Appendix’s from scratch just to see if it is a possible formatting issue or some sort.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:04 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    I think it might be the Flow issue

     

    Zoom out the Frame to 25% to as as many pages as necessary.

    Click in the flow you want to check and choose Edit > Select All In Flow. The flow is highlighted, showing how it traverses the pages of the document.

     

    There might be some those have become disconnected:-

     

    Select the first frame.

    Select the second frame.

    Format > Customize Layout > Connect Text Frames.

     

    Create the pdf again .

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:06 PM   in reply to Harry28586

    Everything in my all of my manuals are on flow A, I did try at one time to change the flow of those three chapters, making each chapter have its own unique flow, however it didn’t fix anything.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:07 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    I will have to look try that, thanks for the suggestion, though I do not have the time to test that today.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 2:39 PM   in reply to garyhatt

    I have re-created the Appendix C chapter that I was having problems with, and everything seems to be working great now, I don’t know if that means it was a problem in the formatting or overall structure of the chapter, or what. I guess that’s what I get for using someone elses leftovers.

     
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