Hi, I wonder if anyone could offer some tips on achieving an effect like this:
I want to replace the Native American's head/image with my own (creating my own currency for my store's rewards program). Thanks!
Just to make sure: first of all, never use existing artwork as the one shown as a starting point. Create your own. Inspiration is good, of course.
There are different ways of creating different kinds of 3D appearance, the most suitable one(s) also depending on the actual basic artwork.
If you have started on that, it may help the helpers help you.
If effect in this context means altering an existing image by choosing a menu item such as those in the Effects menu, then this is not an effect but a drawing most likely based on photo or 3D image reference. Live Trace could've also been used, but I think it is mostly manually drawn paths or brushes
Attached is my Live Trace- created object to which I want to impart some depth (or relief), and recolor.. So is that all there is to it? just perhaps send it through live trace again but reduce the number of colors, and then change the pallette? I suppose I could use Live Color and manually change the colors. Or perhaps there is a photoshop filter that I could run the jpg through first, before doing the live trace, which would make assigning colors easier (ie, by using the color replace)
Oh, hmm I don't see a way to attach a file. Here is a link to the .ai file: http://mmmspeciosa.com/public/krato-kash_flower.ai
There is one thing I am unsure of (well there is more than one thing.. hehe but) -- if you notice in the first link to the coin, the gradient background is merged with the Native American head object. I wonder how I'll do that..
Well the image doesn't look like something engraved like a coin. Not sure if this will work but you can try Effect > Sketch > Bass Relief. Then rasterize, run the Live Trace again and change the colors of the vector paths to gold like the coin.
Interesting -- how did you do the gradient such that it bleeds through the object? I haven't worked with Illustrator in a few months.. also does it matter what the background of the bas relief effect is -- that is, the angle/position of the gradient? could you just briefly mention the steps again. I ended up trying the bas relief effect, followed by exporting to a jpeg (rasterizing didn't seem to let me go forward with another live trace action), and then I traced, but at that point, I didn't know what to do. I'm having trouble figuring out how to separate the main parts of the trace from the background greated by the live trace, or maybe I'm just going about this in the wrong order. I do also want freedom to determine the lighting/gradient, though I couldn't figure out if that should be handled at the time I do the bas relief effect (which I don't know how to do -- only given the options of top, topleft, etc -- although maybe I could play with rotating the object first)0, or later..
At the end I presume you just used the pathfinder to make the circle?
lastly, when you say you'd go over it, do you mean using, say, the pen tool? I do have a wacom tablet, though I don't have a lot of experience using it, but perhaps using it with the pressure to vary stroke width would work? I agree, I think it would make the object, especially the flower, clearer to go over it again.
anyway, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer my questions, really appreciate it!
I applied the Bass Relief effect in Photoshop because it is easier to recolor it there. I can't open your file again - the link is not working anymore, but I used a screen capture I made before from your file to recreate the images of the two steps below so, it is not exactly the same but when you file was available I copied all from it, switched to Photoshop, chose File > New and pasted. Applied the Bass Relief effect and then used Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation with Colorize checked to recolor the image as shown on left side below. Then in Illustrator I used Live Trace with 6 colors, output to swatches, and I got the result shown on the right side. I created 2 color gradients between the 6 colors, used select similar for each color and applied each gradient with the Gradient tool by dragging it vertically between each strip of the 5 colors (the 6th was almost white). The circle behind is just added with the Ellipse tool and a new gradient with all 6 colors of the Live Trace and positioned the color stops to match the image of the flower. That's basically it but to make it better it needs some manual touch with a brush or the pent tool. there should be some highlights and shadows added along the outlines of the flower and its leafs to make the relief appearance on the circle.
Thanks much. I think I am going to find some more suitable photographs from which to cut the leaves/flower, something with better shading that might produce a better (simpler) result.
ps, select similar is powerful!
Oh wow, I think I found a better way to do this. Photoshop's 3D tools! I am following this guide: http://psd.tutsplus.com/tutorials/3d/quick-tip-create-a-bass-relief-ef fect-with-photoshops-3d-tools/
Seems that with this method, I have a lot more control -- or at least, it's a lot more straightforward -- over the background. I'll come back once I've got it looking how I want
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