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Having text reflow problems please help.

Mar 24, 2011 8:48 AM

I work on a file and everything is fine. Open the file the next day and type is reflowed, or kerned slightly longer than what I had done the previous day. Also getting an error box that the type was done in a previous version of Illustrator when I had just worked on it the day before in the same version of Illustrator. If anyone is experiencing this problem let me know or any help would be great.

 

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    Mar 24, 2011 8:51 AM   in reply to oneilll21

    But did you save it as the current version? Doesn't sound like it or else there should not be these issues. Maybe you once saved an old version and forgot to set it back and it now has become the default?

     

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    Mar 24, 2011 9:05 AM   in reply to oneilll21

    You misunderstood my question. To which version of the AI format are you saving? You know, you can choose to use legacy formats even in CS5 and once saved this way, they will no longer retain CS5 specific features. Please clarify what exactly you are doing.

     

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    Mar 24, 2011 9:41 AM   in reply to oneilll21

    Did you copy & paste text elements from a non CS5 file?

     

    type >> legacy text >> update legacy text

     

    If you have type on a path, the text engine changed in CS4, and when you go to edit the text you will get an error and  reflow.

     
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    Dec 15, 2011 9:50 AM   in reply to oneilll21

    We are getting this problem every day; we work on food labels too, and we recently upgraded from CS4 to CS5. I'm doing some testing now and will get back to this thread with the results.

    Have you learned anything new regarding this problem?

     

    I have a question: regarding the type on a path engine being updated from 4 to 5, are text BOXES considered paths? we are seeing a lot of reflow in our Government Warning boxes.

     
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    Dec 15, 2011 10:38 AM   in reply to Mean Kidney Dan

    As a test do a Save As and overwrite the CS4 file by choosing CS5 in the dialog.

     
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    Dec 15, 2011 10:45 AM   in reply to Larry G. Schneider

    done. still no change; but for clarification, attached is the dialogue box i get.

     

    Picture 3.png

    This is a slightly different dialogue box than the legacy text one.

     
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    Jul 18, 2012 3:05 PM   in reply to Mean Kidney Dan

    This is a wide spread CS5-CS6 issue when using a font utility and illustrator. See all the other postings regarding "Reflow" or "Text Reflow". Not too much of an issue if you are working without a font utility in a non-production environment, or for the web. However those of us who use Adobe Illustrator for publication or packaging, watch out.

     
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    Jul 18, 2012 3:21 PM   in reply to PrepressPro1

    Yeah, this pretty much takes CS5 & 6 off the table for us as far as upgrades go; we all work from a central font server, so font management is required. This is a bummer because there are a few features of CS6 i was looking fwd to trying out.

     
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    Jul 18, 2012 8:20 PM   in reply to Mean Kidney Dan

    As Mylenium is pointing out this is just user error in that you are doins a save from a newer version of Ai to a file created in a previous version. You clearly have to do a save as and overwrite the file otherwise it still has the code from CS 5 and does not have the support for newer features, you are just esentially looking for trouble and headaches by not doing a Save As.

     

    Foir instance if you open a CS 5 file in CS 6 and add an object or change a stroke to a gradient stroke and then save it, instead of do ingt a save as, it is saved back to the legacy document which in this case does n9ot support gradient strokes so the next time you open it the gradient stroke is flatten that is it is now outlined and no longer a stroke it is a filled object.

     

    And you may not want that.

     

    As far as I can see this is not an issue but insted user error.

     
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    Jul 18, 2012 8:22 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I should add that this was also true of CS5 and CS 4 and CS 3.

     
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    Jul 19, 2012 7:46 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Wade, thanks for your reply. It's not true, though. We can replicate this error saving a CS5 document AS a CS5 document. It involves font management through a server, and the activating and deactivating of fonts. This is not the same Legacy Text issue that we get sometimes opening a pre-CS1 document.

     
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    Jul 19, 2012 8:08 AM   in reply to Mean Kidney Dan

    it is true you misunderstand what is actually happening. if you save a CS 5 to a CS5 it works if you save a CS 6 to a c S 5 it does not work. If you cas a CS4 document to CS 5 the same proble.

     

    As Mylenium pointed out if you open a CS 5 document in CS 6 asnd do a save instead of a save as you are saving to a legacy file the behavior is expected.

     

    It is simply user error.

     

    If you create snd by create, I mean starting from scratch, a CS 6 document and the save it and make changes and save it again then all works fine. But if you open a CS 5 document do a save then close it is still a CS 5 document.

     

    T he error you are making is thinking that since you opened the CS 5 document in CS 6 and then did a save the file is now a CS 6 document it is not. That's the error.

     

    Read the warning it states the text was created in a different version.

     

    The only way is to do a Save As to overwrite the CS 5 code with CS 6 code.

     
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:02 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    I'm sorry, Wade. You are wrong about this. I can reproduce the problem. From scratch as you describe.

     

    "If you create snd by create, I mean starting from scratch, a CS 6 document and the save it and make changes and save it again then all works fine. "

    Nonsense. That couldn't be more wrong.

     

    read this thread. It has been exhaustively researched:

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/4108779#4108779

     
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    Jul 19, 2012 9:22 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Wade, check this post for the issue we are referring to:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/4111025#4111025

     
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