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Jul 20, 2012 8:22 AM

Tags: #ps #cs6.
No question, just a comment for the PS developers.

After reading about some of the new features in CS6, I decided to upgrade without skipping a version.  However, then I learned that the intefac had been significatly redesigned.   Learning a new interface constitutes a time consuming waste of time to me.   I would rather spend my time processing my images than in learning a new interface.  Consequently, I will not be upgrading to CS6..    I hope this gets passed on to the Adobe developers.

 
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    Jul 20, 2012 8:56 AM   in reply to DougStocks1

    So your message for the Adobe developers is  create no changes on future versions?  If you want to stay locked in time that is your choice, but don't think most users would agree.  There is a long list sent in by users of feature requests to cater to specific desires, of which very few will get implemented. 

     

    Photoshop 7 was an excellent program, and even after 10 years many are still using it. 

     

    Are you aware that if you do not upgrade to CS6 before 12/31/12 future versions will cost full price?  Yea, I agree that change sucks.

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 9:39 AM   in reply to DougStocks1

    ...I learned that the intefac had been significatly redesigned.   Learning a new interface constitutes a time consuming waste of time to me.

    What do you mean, exactly?

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 11:41 AM   in reply to DougStocks1

    If you miss the deadline you will have to pay full price, unless Adobe caves on the upgrade policy which means you have to upgrade to each version, no skipping.

     

    The interface is a little different to allow you to alter the color of the background gray, crop tool changed, and some background re-programming with blur and liquify filter.  Has put a bigger burden on GPU which is causing the GPU makers to scramble to build new drivers.  Can't think of much else that has changed.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 20, 2012 11:57 AM   in reply to DougStocks1

    Doug, what are you talking about?

     

    Photoshop's user interface has ABSOLUTELY NOT been "significantly redesigned".

     

    Having said what you said, I'm left to wonder whether you're commenting on a completely different application, or having a very specific problem.  This is Photoshop CS6 we're talking about, right?  Had you customized your prior version heavily?  What version was it that you upgraded from?

     

    There have been some things added that make it look different by default - e.g.:

     

    • The darker theme, which is an improvement - but you can easily configure it to look the way it did before with the lighter gray theme. 

     

    • The Application Frame is now on by default on a Mac, but that is not a new feature and can be turned off.

     

    • There are some differences in the way layers are portrayed in the Layers panel.

     

    • Some things have been slightly reorganized (into the more useful Properties panel, for example, which easily replaces/augments the function of the old Adjustments panel).

     

    In fact, across many, many major version releases of Photoshop the usability is substantially the same.  You can start Photoshop 6.0 today and apply many of the same techniques as with Photoshop CS6.  This is one thing the Adobe people have gotten right.

     

    How long have you been using Photoshop CS6, and what parts do you find different?

     

    I've used every version of Photoshop myself daily for almost 20 years, and moving from Photoshop CS5 to CS6 has been utterly trivial!  It probably represents one of the most easy to deal with upgrades I've been through with any application.

     

    I recommend you actually try using it for a while before commenting on the changes.

     

    And by all means list the specific things you find distasteful and we can discuss how to smooth your transition. 

     

    -Noel

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:06 PM   in reply to DougStocks1

    As I said in post # 1 that is true only until end of this December.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:12 PM   in reply to DougStocks1

    Great!  I suggest before making a purchase decision you download the 1 month free trial and give it a run yourself! 

     

    And as I mentioned, feel free to post your specific thoughts here - those of us who have been through the transition will be more than willing to help you get through it.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:24 PM   in reply to Curt Y

    I'm using PS 5.5 (version 12.1). I thought that I could upgrade at any time during the PS 6 cycle as long as it was before PS 7 was announced. Are even PS 5 folks limited to upgrading by the end of theyear?

     

    Thanks,

    Chuck

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 12:50 PM   in reply to Chuck_DF
     
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    Jul 20, 2012 3:08 PM   in reply to acresofgreen

    It is such a pity that the Lynda.com 'what's new in CS6' video tutorials became subscription only when the full release came out.  It did an excellent job of explaining the new UI and got you up and running with CS6 in double quick time. 

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 3:45 PM   in reply to DougStocks1

    DougStocks1 wrote:

     

    …I have not used CS6; I have only read a couple of reviews of it and it appears that perhaps they were not saying what I thought they were…

     

    That was painfully and embarrassingly obvious just from reading your original post. 

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 5:17 PM   in reply to Trevor.Dennis

    The default look of PsCS6 is different (easily changed back to a lighter UI), but functionally pretty much the same as previous versions.

    The only change I have had a hard time getting used to is the new Crop Tool. I really liked it at first... I thought it had some smart changes in its UI. But after a few months of using it daily, I find it not very intuitive (for me).  I always have to think about what I want it to do. I hope Adobe works on it more for next version of PS.

     
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    Jul 20, 2012 9:48 PM   in reply to charles badland

    charles badland wrote:

     

    …the new Crop Tool.… But after a few months of using it daily, I find it not very intuitive (for me)…

     

    This video tutorial by Julianne Kost helped me greatly:

     

    http://blogs.adobe.com/jkost/2012/06/video-tutorial-the-newly-redesign ed-crop-tool-in-photoshop-cs6.html

     
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    Jul 21, 2012 5:13 AM   in reply to charles badland

    The only change I have had a hard time getting used to

    Some things seem to have been changed without regard for efficient use – changing a path’s Path Operation is now a two-click-task but was a one-click-task before.

    Annoying but not tragic and maybe that can be remedied in the future.

     

    Edit:

    http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/shape_properties _collapsed_in_cs6_require_more_mouse_clicks

     
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:07 AM   in reply to station_two

    Thanks S2,

    I knew most of what she showed, but as always with Ms. Kost I learned a few things I did not.

    The Crop Tool changes I have found hardest to get used are having to think about which "Front Image" choice I want (It used to be just one button, now I have four choices)

    And I don't like how there is no indication if you have a Crop Preset to resample. I posted another image here (I can track it down Monday) where I have the Crop Preset doing three very different things, yet the info displayed in its command bar is identical.

    Also, unlike other presets, you can not rename a crop preset. What is shown below is the default naming by Adobe for a Crop Preset.

     

    here it is:

    crop-bust.jpg

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 21, 2012 10:42 AM   in reply to charles badland

    I agree that it's unacceptable to have stuff exceed the space given by default, with no way to widen the field.  What's the problem with using more horizontal space?

     

    Would that be the vicinity of Linville Falls, NC, Charles?  Seems awfully familiar looking to me.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Jul 21, 2012 2:14 PM   in reply to charles badland

    charles badland wrote:

     

    And I don't like how there is no indication if you have a Crop Preset to resample. I posted another image here (I can track it down Monday) where I have the Crop Preset doing three very different things, yet the info displayed in its command bar is identical.

    Also, unlike other presets, you can not rename a crop preset. What is shown below is the default naming by Adobe for a Crop Preset.

     

     

     

    There are two types of crop presets which you can name as you like, therefore you can include the resulting dimensions and pixel density in the name.

     

    There's the Tool Preset kind that stores all of a tool's otions, which you name when creating and which can be renamed in the Presets Manager.

     

    Crop-Tool-Preset.png

     

    There's the crop dimensions and density preset which you can name as you prefer, or accept the Ps suggested name, when saving it. If you want to rename one of these presets, select it, save again with new name, delete old preset.

     

    Crop-preset1.png

     

     

    Crop-preset2.png

     
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    Jul 21, 2012 3:47 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    Hi Noel,

    Nope, wrong coast.

    We went to Yosemite two months ago. That is a section of of pic overlooking Vernal Falls.

    But I did visit Linville Falls, NC... maybe 15 years ago? Beautiful area.

    Here is the whole pic (a quickly throw together stitch/composite) That is the backside of Half Dome at the top. My wife and kid are quite a bit above the falls. For scale, look at the little black specs of people to the right of the falls. This is where, not too long ago, three young adults tragically died (trying to save one another) crossing over the guardrail for photo-ops in the river at the top of the falls.

    yosemite_hike.jpg

     
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