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Stacking some preset filters in Lightroom 4?

Jul 20, 2012 6:41 PM

Tags: #lightroom #preset #filters #4.1

Is there any way to stack preset filters on photos?

 

I remember back in Lightroom 3, you could select some filters, like Cold Tone, then select another filter and would apply itself on top of the Cold Tone filter.

 

Now, it seems in Lightroom 4, every time you select a filter, it completely overwrites all the settings of previous ones. Are there any workarounds?

 
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    Jul 20, 2012 6:51 PM   in reply to Rukes1

    If a slider is set by both presets, the second preset's value replaces the value set by the first preset. In other words, in many cases, the second preset wins. Lightroom has always worked that way.

     

    If the two presets have no sliders in common, then they are completely additive.

     

    No workarounds.

     

    Hal

     
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    Dec 19, 2012 8:09 AM   in reply to Hal P Anderson

    Thank you very much for your response but it is incorrect. I have the same problem as the original poster -- the standard Lightroom Presets, at least Cold Tone  +  others are not stackable. I used to get great effects for example with Cold Tone + Direct Positive on top of each other (and in that order) or Bleach Bypass + Direct Positive (and ordering, sequencing of the effects all generated different output) in previous versions of Lightroom. That's now all gone -- I've resorted to using previous (3) versions of Lightoom to retain this ability to stack effects. I am using both 3 and 4.3 side by side, only in 3 are the effects stacking on top and being applied as a blend. In 4.3 one cancels out the other. If anyone knows the answer for Versions 4.x would be much appreciated.

     

    Thanks!

     
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    Feb 2, 2013 12:00 AM   in reply to Rukes1

    So that means that both of the opinions here are correct:

     

    You just don't get the same additive effect (I prefer this term over *stacking* as this means something different in Library), because the process versions of LR3=PV2010 and LR4=PV2012 work different, hence the LR-shipped presets now do overlap.

     

    Whenever presets overlap, the last one applied will win.

     

    This leads to 2 pretty different strategies in creating your own user presets:

    Either you think you can do "all-in-one"-presets and they fit more than the image you developed it for.

    Or you think you have to add more individual effects, each one only affecting one develop panel, so you can combine these bits in many different ways, to suite a real broad range of images. Which means they are really additive.

     

    Cornelia

     
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  • Jim Forbes
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    Feb 1, 2013 11:34 PM   in reply to Rukes1

    Here's a workaround I use >

    Make a virtual copy - Apply the preset - Edit in Photoshop with LR Adjustments - Save/Close in PS

    Back in LR apply another filter to the returned file.

     
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    Feb 2, 2013 12:02 AM   in reply to Jim Forbes

    Hi Jim Forbes,

     

    This does create a PSD-file from the virtual copy?

    And it bakes the previously first applied preset into the pixels?

     

    Cornelia

     
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    Apr 14, 2013 7:07 PM   in reply to Cornelia-I

    It's easy enough to do 'stacking' of presets.

     

    Each time you want to 'add' something, you change what it is, create a preset of that setting and when you go to 'Add a Preset', you get the window up with the options of what to use.... UNCHECK ALL and only check the single entity you are changing.

     

    You then have all the previous changes still there. Oh, of course it's bleeding obvious that you realise if you change something of the same value as in a previous preset the latest version will overwrite it.

     

    That way you can create quite a few presets, and when you 'update' a preset also it will have the added bonus of having previous + new preset.

     
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