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Jul 24, 2012 6:22 AM

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    Jul 25, 2012 1:52 PM   in reply to point hvnwrd

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    Jul 25, 2012 11:27 PM   in reply to Al Sparber

    Al Sparber wrote:

     

    With a scratch-programmed gallery and logically sized images, you do not

    have to go the "extra space" route that you dislike (but others like),

    You can simply use a gallery that automatically takes care of things for

    you, like this:

     

    http://www.projectseven.com/products/galleries/igm2/examples/demo-04.h tm

     


     

    Sure but that's what I'd say was correctly sized images i.e, theres enough area left/right in the image to be presented in a consistant and more pleasing way. Now if you had a long skinny image as the OP had its not going to work that well in my opinion.

     

    I cant recall ever seeing a slide galley were the images are not of a consistent dimension, not on the websites I've seen anyway. I guess if it were a standalone slide/gallery (as I suppose the OP's is) then if you are accepting of the extra spacing around some of the images you could get away with it, maybe.

     
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    Jul 26, 2012 8:17 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

    I've worked on the suggested FancyBox for a good part of the day yesterday and I only have broken links (somewhere) to show for it.  I've went through it, and went through it...I don't know where I have messed up.

     

     

    Can you make sure that your images are uploaded to your server in the 'fancybox_imgs' folder?

     

    You're seeing broken image links because the browser cannot find them where your links to them say they are:

     

    http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/fancybox_imgs/Phantom.jpg

     

     

    You haven't uploaded your jquery scripts either:

     

    http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/scripts/jquery.js

     
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    Jul 26, 2012 8:33 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

    I have uploaded all this into my workspace and have tried to make sure all by paths are correct, but not knowing what I'm doing, that is probably were the problem lies. 

     

     

    Hummm..if you can't upload the images its going to be a bit of a struggle for you.

     

    What do you mean when you say 'I have uploaded all this into my workspace'?

     

    Where are the images you listed above stored in your local site folder....in what folder?

     
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    Jul 26, 2012 9:33 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    The thumbnail images are optional. There is no coding involved. You

    simply open the interface and browse to your images. If you get stuck,

    you simply call us on the phone and we get you sorted in minutes.

     

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    Al Sparber - PVII

    http://www.projectseven.com

    The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

    Since 1998

     
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    Jul 26, 2012 10:21 AM   in reply to Al Sparber

    Al Sparber wrote:

     

    The thumbnail images are optional. There is no coding involved. You

    simply open the interface and browse to your images. If you get stuck,

    you simply call us on the phone and we get you sorted in minutes.

     

     

    Is there any uploading involved though?

     
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    Jul 26, 2012 10:20 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

     

    Did I do right?

     

    No. I'm not sure where you're uploading your images to once you get into your remote server because they are not where the links in your page says they are:

     

    http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/fancybox_imgs/Phantom.jpg

     

    Until you can get the images in the correct place on the server nothing will work.

     

    You must have uploaded images before as you had the initial page set up showing the images...so where did you upload those to?

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 5:25 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

    Will this help?

             

     

    See example:

     

    http://www.nycercoachbreaks.co.uk/geishagoll_siamese/

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 6:10 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

     

    Also, is this what FancyBox looks like? 

    Yes.

     

     

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

    Does it rotate by itself? 

     

    Fancybox doesn't rotate. (I thought you may have looked at the examples on the Fancybox site?)

     

     

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

     

    Can you make it to where it hides all the photos and just rotates/carousels each one in a gallery form? 

     

    If you want a rotator I'd go with Als example/s, they are image rotator/slider/cycle through solutions. Call it what you want. Not sure how Vite (the last one in the gallery will work unless you have a bigger image) The issue I see with the images you have are they are way variable in dimension and a cycle through solution may look odd as opposed to viewing the images in a standalone environment. I mean some still look odd to me in Fancybox but its the lesser of two evils, if you know what I mean.

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 6:32 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

    You got it! 

     

    Could you tell what I am doing wrong?  What I need to fix?

     

    You have identified your images as being in this location (in the GeishagollSiamese folder):

     

    http://www.pointheavenwardsiamese.com/GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancy box_img/Phantom.jpg

     

     

    But in your current scrapbook page you have NOT included the folder names 'GeishagollSiamese' and 'fancybox' at the start of the img src:

     

    <a class="fancybox" title= "CH Geishagoll Phantom on Ice (Lilac Point Male)" href="fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"><img src="fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"/></a>

     

    They should include the folder names like this:

     

    <a class="fancybox" title= "CH Geishagoll Phantom on Ice (Lilac Point Male)" href="

    GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/

    fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"><img src="GeishagollSiamese/fancybox/fancybox_img/Phantom.jpg"/></a>

     

    If you amend all your links to include the folder names you should see some images appear but be warned the images will be all over the place because they are of variable size unless you have cropped them which I very much doubt.

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 6:30 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

     

    Please forgive me.  I feel like I have wasted your time by not understanding what FancyBox was.  I AM sorry for that.

     

     

    No, you have not wasted my time as it keeps me 'fresh' in terms of code writing and how solutions works. I don't use Fancybox on a regular basis so you tend to forget almost everything when you make a revist.....so if anything its was a good and useful exercise for myself.

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 6:58 AM   in reply to osgood_

    osgood_ wrote:

     

    If you want a rotator I'd go with Als example/s, they are image rotator/slider/cycle through solutions. Call it what you want. Not sure how Vite (the last one in the gallery will work unless you have a bigger image) The issue I see with the images you have are they are way variable in dimension and a cycle through solution may look odd as opposed to viewing the images in a standalone environment. I mean some still look odd to me in Fancybox but its the lesser of two evils, if you know what I mean.

     

    There are other sliders such as http://flex.madebymufffin.com/examples/thumbnail-controlnav.html and http://jquery.malsup.com/cycle/ both of which are very easy to install using the Adobe Widget Browser

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 7:55 AM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    point hvnwrd wrote:

     

     

    The only thing is that I would have to crop pictures...and that would be okay if all her photos were all basically the same (ie.  all head shots or all body shots), but they are a mixture.  And even in that, if they were all body shots...body shots are taken both ways...some portrait style and some landscape...and I know she would hate to cut out a nice body so the head could be kept and used in a slider.  (It's just nice to see a full body shot.)

     

     

    That's the point I've been trying to make since day 1.......sliders are very nice in terms of presentation as long as your images have enough scope to mantain consitent dimensions. (that usually means cropping) Unfortunately yours don't so youre going to end up with a pretty ugly solution.....well not exactly ugly,  the best that can be achieved.

     

    I mean take the image of Vite, at the moment is not much larger than a thumbnail, that's going to look pretty odd sliding along with huge amounts of space surrounding it.

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 7:57 AM   in reply to Ben Pleysier

    Altruistic Gramps wrote:

     

     

    There are other sliders such as http://flex.madebymufffin.com/examples/thumbnail-controlnav.html and http://jquery.malsup.com/cycle/ both of which are very easy to install using the Adobe Widget Browser

     

    Thanks Gramps,

     

    I like the 'basic slider' shown in url 1.......might use that myself next time I have a reason to use a slider.

     

    Cheers

     

    Os

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 8:04 AM   in reply to osgood_

    @Os,

     

    Sorry I came here so late, I could have given you better support.

     

    Gramps

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 9:30 AM   in reply to osgood_

    What I have not seen yet, is a slider that adjusts to the natural

    dimensions of its content. Making a slider that scales images is nothing

    to do with script. It is a simple CSS task.

     

    We've been doing this for years with images and text:

    http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/horizontal-accordion/tutori als/galleria/example.htm

     

    The core open source libraries do not support this type of functionality

    by default, so it takes expert programming skills on the plugin

    developer's part. While there might be some truly adaptive jQuery

    sliders out there, when we researched and planned our sliders there were

    absolutely none.

     

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    Al Sparber - PVII

    http://www.projectseven.com

    The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

    Since 1998

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 4:59 PM   in reply to Al Sparber

    Al Sparber wrote:

     

    What I have not seen yet, is a slider that adjusts to the natural

    dimensions of its content.

    Have a look http://pleysier.com.au/flexislider/

     

    Gramps

     

    PS This example is based on version 1, version 2 is even better.

     

    Message was edited by: Altruistic Gramps

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 8:57 PM   in reply to Ben Pleysier

    Thanks Gramps. Could be that the author is not very talented, design-wise, but it just looks a bit amaturish to me. I will admit I have never seen that one before and we sure as heck looked high and low to see if any plugin developers knew how to work around jQuery's constraints in that area. Do you have an example of an adaptive slider that is a bit more refined and that does text as well as images? Perhaps close to what this does:

     

    http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/tpm2/tutorials/nesting/inde x.htm

     

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    http://www.projectseven.com

    The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

    Since 1998

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 9:02 PM   in reply to point hvnwrd

    Hi Melody,

     

    Got your message. Glad your friend liked our gallery. I'm posting here in case you do not get my reply to your private message via this forum. I must have bad luck, but half the things on this forum simply do not work right for me. Use our support email address and we'll get you started. You'll find the email address and phone number here:

     

    http://www.projectseven.com/support/index.htm

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 11:14 PM   in reply to Al Sparber

    @Mr Sparber,

     

    I guess I am the so-called amateur; we can't all be knowledgeable.

     

    As I said, version 2 is better and if I had the time to show you, I would. But then you would only rubbish this amateur as you have done in the past and as recently as in this post.

     

    The main reason I gave the example was to show that free-of-charge sliders (not just this one but also Malsup's Cycle and Nivo Slider amongst others) do show the natural dimensions, in contrast to what you have been erroneously saying.

     

    Have a good day sir!

     

    Gramps.

     

    PS Incidentally, have a look at DMXZone, http://www.dmxzone.com/go/18780/dmxzone-nivo-slider/, where they have made very good use of the Nivo Slider for a very reasonable €29.00

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 11:39 PM   in reply to Ben Pleysier

    Hi Gramps,

     

    Thanks for the additional information. Unfortunately, Nivo slider does

    not show text content in any of the demos listed at the site, nor do I

    see one using different size images. Actually, with some of the

    animation methods being used, I would say that it would be impossible -

    or very messy.

     

    I'm not sure of the relevancy of the other "recommendation" you are

    making, as it is appears to be the same open source-based script, with

    the same features and limitations - made into a Dreamweaver extension.

    If we thought jQuery were a good direction for us, we could turn out one

    of those a week. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. It apparently works

    for the company you mentions and I say more power to them.

     

    But it's not our thing. We program from the ground up so that we have

    total control over the feature set and refinement of a tool and to

    ensure the best possible experience for our customers that we can.

     

    I have not seen an example that matches this:

    http://www.projectseven.com/products/tools/tpm2/tutorials/nesting/

     

    Or this:

    http://www.projectseven.com/products/galleries/igm2/tutorials/full-ope n/

     

    The only limitation you keep leveling on my company is that we are not

    free or, when you mention another commercial tool, that we are more

    expensive. But it's common knowledge that we've been making Dreamweaver

    commercial tools longer than anyone else and we are alleged to have

    stellar customer support. We even donate products to charitable

    organizations and the needy. And we are easily accessible for support

    via email, forum, and telephone - world wide.

     

    So I'm really not sure where you are coming from. But I'm sure you are

    perfectly sure of your goals so it's probably just a communications

    failure. It happens.

     

    By the way, I meant the developer's own examples were amateurish looking

    to me - not yours. I hardly looked at your page and went straight to the

    developer's page.

     

     

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    Al Sparber - PVII

    http://www.projectseven.com

    Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

     
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    Jul 27, 2012 11:56 PM   in reply to Al Sparber

    @Mr Sparber,

     

    You hit the nail on the head, professional Al (earning big bucks) and amateur Gramps (receives zilch), although I do prefer altruistic Gramps. I have nothing against a professional, we all need to eat and have a roof above our heads; but it is you who started thumping and until I see an apology, I aim to keep it up.

     

    Please let me remind you in this discussion http://forums.adobe.com/message/3719071#3719071 where you said and more

    While most Dreamweaver users do not fully understand how to use absolute

    positioning, your assertion is gross disinformation and you would be

    well served to hone your skills (and attitude) a bit.

     

    Have a good day sir.

     

    Gramps

     
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    Jul 28, 2012 12:24 AM   in reply to Ben Pleysier

    Hi Gramps,

     

    The last thing I would ever do to win an argument (and in this case, a

    non-existent one) is to cite past posts when I run out of points. The

    dear old-timers on the Italian side of my family used to love doing that

    - although they usually hugged and kissed after the sparks stopped

    flying I remember whenever Aunt Rose and my mom used to get into a

    little argument, Aunt Rose would always bring up the time in 1953 when

    mom said her pasta sauce was better.

     

    The thread you cited does not cover the full context of our

    disagreements. I'm not about to accumulate and present evidence of the

    various times we've both been a little testy towards each other to build

    a case over who was more right or more wrong or who struck first. We're

    both human and the last time I checked, none of our species is ever perfect.

     

    The reality is that we both make our livings in the web design field. I

    believe you recently mentioned some nice new contracts - one being in

    Switzerland. That's great and something you should be proud of. I would

    also guess that your altruistic work on these forums might sometimes

    help you get some contracts. And that's also a good thing.

     

    I believe we do the same sort of good, but in different ways. Altruism

    can also involve selling someone a product for $95 and giving them free

    lifetime support, free updates, and advice that some might say is worth

    many times more than the price of entry. Not to mention the dozens of

    complimentary copies we dole out to the less advantaged and to non-profits.

     

    Project Seven has been in business since 1997 and has been producing

    commercial Dreamweaver extensions since 1998. I am truly sorry if I've

    offended you in the past. But if we are both mature adults (and I think

    we're probably fairly close in age) we should be able to be move forward

    to the point where we can openly debate the matter of sliders,

    galleries, and quality, without resorting to smear tactics or whose

    sauce was better in 1953.

     

    --

    Al Sparber - PVII

    http://www.projectseven.com

    The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

    Since 1998

     
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