Skip navigation
Ed.Macke 683 posts
Mar 17, 2006
Currently Being Moderated

How To Improve GoPro Video Quality / Make it "Pop"?

Jul 26, 2012 11:03 AM

The video you see on GoPro's website and in their in-store displays is gorgeous - bright, crisp, super vibrant. The video my son has actually been getting with his GoPro Hero2? Decidedly less exciting. It's definitely sharp and nice HD quality, but my complaint is that it almost a desaturated look, with the colors muted and a little washed out.

 

Given the differences between GoPro website footage and our footage, I'm guessing their website and in-store display video has had some liberal video editing applied, which is fine, except... I can't figure out how to get the same results!

 

If it was a picture and I was using Lightroom, I could probably get it pretty close, but I can't seem to get anywhere close to what I'd like to see using the PRE Image Controls (brightness, contrast, saturation). The image controls seem kind of limited in what they do.

 

Brightness seems to wash everything out instead of just increasing the highlights.

 

Contrast... I don't know what the heck it's doing - moving it definitely has an effect but I have yet to find an effect that actually improves anything.

 

Vibrance definitely helps with the washed-out colors, but it gets garish quickly.

 

So, am I pretty much stuck with those three options, or is there a video effect in the PRE library that gives better results? Is there a 3rd party tool?

 

Also, in the fall, we'll be upgrading to PrPro CS6 - does that offer any advanced (read: better) tools for boosting my so-so GoPro footage to something closer to what the web site shows?

 

Here's some details, if it matters

Using Hero2, not original Hero

I know the GoPro's don't do well in dim light, but footage is shot in broad daylight

Using 1080p mode (1920 x 1080, 30p) h.264 MP-4

Video sucked in directly from SD card, has green render bar upon import

 
Replies
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 26, 2012 5:36 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Ed,

     

    The usual culprit is light.  The pros get up early and stay up late.  The rest of us play with our toys at noon and have a hard time getting results that have the pop of morning and evening. 

     

    You might try looking through some of the tools at http://www.newbluefx.com.  You might notice that some of there tools have been included in PRE10, but also that there seem to be many more tools/effects that are available with a little more horsepower. 

     

    In the Video Essentials III package there are a couple that look like they could up the "pop" a little and they are free to try. 

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 27, 2012 10:07 AM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Ed.Macke wrote:

     

    I was hoping there'd be something included with PRE (or PrPro) because I'm cheap! Well, maybe not cheap, really - I'm not opposed to paying for tools to do what I need, I'm just opposed to paying for them unnecessarily.

    There are free tools included.  They are called 'effects'.  I didn't want to insult you by suggesting you didn't know what they are or how to use them.  If you have not found how to add effects and then adjust them, we should start there. 

     

    If the free and provided effects are not sufficent for the "pop" you want, it has to be the original lighting.  Mid day pictures are always flat.  The pro's use big reflectors held by assistants to help provide pop on the subject.

     

    Until you posted your question, I had not even considered looking for third party "plug ins" that add additional effects.  But, the idea is intreguing. 

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 27, 2012 4:02 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    You have me a little confused too, because I'm not sure what you mean by "standard brightness / contrast / vibrancy tweeks". 

     

    My guess is that you have not discovered or explored the "Edit Effects" part.  Here goes:

     

    Make sure a clip is highlighted on the timeline.  Click the Edit tab and then click Effects.  Select Video Effects and Show All.   Look for the tiny eyeball to the right of those two buttons.  Click on it and the Effect thumbnails will look like your selected clip. 

     

    Click on one of the effects like "Brightness and Contrast".  A white box displays around it.  While the box is displayed, push the Apply button.  You should see your clip change a little.  Next, click the Edit Effects button.  For this effect, there are two sliders that you drag back and forth to get lots of change.  Other effects have more controls.  You can stack the effects and toggle them on and off independently until you get what you want.

     

    Between "Brightness and Contrast",  "Image Control", "Lighting Effects" and "Channel Mixer" you should be able to get a some "pop" into anything that has close to the right exposure.  The two color correction effects are impressive.  And try "Gamma Correction".

     

    Until you first apply the effect and then get to the sliders under the Edit Correction, you won't see much.  When you start sliding the sliders, lots will happen.

     

    You can stack Effects and then using the "Edit Effects" tools manipulate them until you like it. 

     

    If you get a combination that you like, you can save it as a personal effect and quickly apply it to other clips.

     

    I've yet to find a better way to figure the effects out than playing with them.

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 28, 2012 4:55 PM   in reply to whsprague

    I wish he would come back and say if it worked for him!

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 8:44 AM   in reply to whsprague

    Bill,

     

    Ed's usually very good at coming back to any of his threads, and reporting (unlike some posters, who never show up again ).

     

    My guess is that he's testing some of the Effects mentioned, to see what improves his GoPro footage. At least I am hoping that is the case.

     

    Good luck to Ed,

     

    Hunt

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 9:03 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill Hunt wrote:

    ...... (unlike some posters, who never show up again )......

    You're at 50,000 posts and I'm at 40 here.  You must get frustrated!

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 9:13 AM   in reply to whsprague

    Oh, I cannot tell you. I work about six Adobe forums, and love helping others, where possible. I have seen so very many posts, that pose a problem, and then many others jump in to help, only to never hear if any of their suggestions has done any good. The thread will lie dormant for ages, then another user will find it, and post "Hey, did you ever get this solved? I have the same problem." None of us know if ANYTHING worked originally, so have to start all over at zero - "Tell us about YOUR system, your Source Files, your Project Preset, and what you're doing, when the problem arises... ?"

     

    All it takes is for the OP to just drop back by, and say, "Yes, Harm Millaard's suggestion was on the spot, and fixed my problem."

     

    Also, marking a post as "Answered," and a Reply as "Correct," or "Helpful," is good too, plus that allows Adobe to actually track things better, and provide justification for their support of the forums. We have begun urging posters to fill in those functions, to help everyone.

     

    Still, if I can help just one person per day, I feel like I have contributed, and just hope that there was assistance in some of those other posts.

     

    Hunt

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 9:30 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill Hunt wrote:

     

    .....Still, if I can help just one person per day, I feel like I have contributed, and just hope that there was assistance in some of those other posts.

     

    I try to do the same in a motorhome forum, a camcorder forum and, now, a little here.  It is a sort of "pay it forward" thing.  I had no idea how to operate a complex motorhome 8 years ago.  I learned on a forum called rv.net.  Although I had taken pictures for 40 years, I had no idea what a camcorder was or how it worked.  I learned on avsforum.com.  With PE, I've gone through the lynda.com and video2brain courses and am now learning more here.  Where I can, I try to help others, even though I may be only a few steps ahead. 

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 9:46 AM   in reply to whsprague

    Yes, I got my start in a similar fashion. Way back when, I dropped Aldus PhotoStyler for the new Adobe Photoshop. Though I had been doing advertising photography and analog image assembly for years, digital was brand new. Though Photoshop had a lovely manual, which I read cover-to-cover, and though I had been using PhotoStyler for about 6 mos., I still needed help. There was no Internet back then, and Adobe had zero presence, even on the nntp news groups. I found alt.graphics.photoshop and comp.graphic.photoshop, and got all my answers. After a bit, I found that I could help others, and especially when it came to some general image assembly, or creation problems. I kept at it, reading posts to learn, and helping, where I could. Fast-forward to Adobe's entry into things, first nntp, and then http. I kept up the reading and answering. It was my way of saying "thank you," for helping me out.

     

    Years later, I began doing video, and after several years, landed with PrPro, and the Adobe PrPro forum. I then picked up PrE to do some things, that PrPro was ill-suited for, and sat down, reading every post in this forum. With a few questions, and a lot of reading, I was soon fair with PrE, though I use it only about 10% of the time, relying more heavily on PrPro. Still, and especially with general video questions, I knew that I could be helpful, and also learn more about PrE, just by reading all of the posts.

     

    Now, I am retired, but still help out with several Adobe forums, when I can. Even though I used Photoshop commercially for 20 years, and even taught several courses in it, I still learn something new almost everyday on the PS forum!

     

    Thanks for what you do - the forums would cease to exist, were it not for subscribers, such as yourself.

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - bet Ed comes back soon - he's really good at reporting in.

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 29, 2012 2:17 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Ed,

     

    Glad that you have been able to improve the footage.

     

    I understand what "time of day" can do, when shooting. Just saw a lovely ad for a local golf course, that I play fairly often. I almost gasped at the lovely light & shadow. The course looked fantastic! I paused for a moment, and then thought, "heck, I play it mid-day, or very early afternoon, and never immediately before sunset, or immediately after sunrise - of course it looks different here!"

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 30, 2012 5:37 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Ed,

     

    I'm glad you found the vast world hidden under the tiny 'Edit Effects' button.  It seems a little odd to me that it is so easy to apply an "Effect" but under that small button, 'Edit Effects', is such a complicated maze of powerful controls.  Figureing out how to get the most out of those controls is pushing the limits of my imagination -- not that there was alot there to start with. 

     

    Bill

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Jul 30, 2012 6:37 PM   in reply to whsprague

    Bill,

     

    About the best that I have seen, at helping unlocking the "secrets" of Edit Effects, is Steve Grisetti's PrE books. Still, there is so very much material there, that it would almost take a book for many of the Effects.

     

    Luckily for me, many are versions of Effects from Premiere Pro, and I was able to start that program, when they did a nice, printed manual. Much from PrPro applies to Effects in PrE.

     

    Personally, I could not edit without the Effects Control Panel (accessed differently between PrPro and PrE), because of the control that it offers. While I am very tame on my Effects, there are few Clips that do not have a couple, just to enhance things.

     

    Good call,

     

    Hunt

     
    |
    Mark as:
  • Currently Being Moderated
    Aug 14, 2012 6:31 PM   in reply to Ed.Macke

    Ed, what preset are you using for this video format?

     
    |
    Mark as:

More Like This

  • Retrieving data ...

Bookmarked By (0)

Answers + Points = Status

  • 10 points awarded for Correct Answers
  • 5 points awarded for Helpful Answers
  • 10,000+ points
  • 1,001-10,000 points
  • 501-1,000 points
  • 5-500 points