I have understood it to be that all file (photo) organization in Elements should be done in the Organizer. However, I took over 500 shots in RAW + Jpeg, so now I want to place the RAW files in a separate folder so I can make thumbnails from the Jpegs to allow the subjects to select which photos they want copies of. I will then work on those RAW files. However, Organizer lists the files in filename order, so manually selecting the CR2 files would be a pain in the butt. Is there a way in Organizer to sort by size or sort by file extension ... anything other than filename? Can files be directed to individual folders when first downloaded? If I sort the files in Windows Explorer and move them, does that mess up the cataloging in Organizer?
Big-Al-Photoman wrote:
I have understood it to be that all file (photo) organization in Elements should be done in the Organizer. However, I took over 500 shots in RAW + Jpeg, so now I want to place the RAW files in a separate folder so I can make thumbnails from the Jpegs to allow the subjects to select which photos they want copies of. I will then work on those RAW files. However, Organizer lists the files in filename order, so manually selecting the CR2 files would be a pain in the butt. Is there a way in Organizer to sort by size or sort by file extension ... anything other than filename?
Find > By Filename works for this
If I sort the files in Windows Explorer and move them, does that mess up the cataloging in Organizer?
Depends on what you mean by sort. You were talking about actually moving photos, and I would advise against this, as moving photos in Windows does indeed mess up your Organizer. If you MUST move photos from one folder to another (and I'm not convinced you must), then do so by dragging and dropping in the PSE Folder Location View.
However, if you're showing the photos to your clients, I don't see any reason to perform this extra step of creating a new folder and then moving photos. Don't make extra work for yourself unless its really needed. At the time you are ready to show the photos to the clients, you can either segregate them in Windows (without moving them to a different folder) by sorting by file type; or you can segregate them in PSE, using Find > By Filename.
A --- "Find > by Filename" ? That is the default, and already shows in this sequence. Filename creates a sequence of CR2, Jpeg, XMP, CR2, Jpeg, XMP, CR2, Jpeg, XPM, etc. etc.
B --- again, not sure if Adobe just didn't understand the question or I am too dense to understand the answer. I am going to reduce the size of the Jpeg files so I can upload them to an online gallery so the clients can view the shots taken. I am obviously not going to upload the RAW files or the XPM (I assume the thumbnail created to allow the RAW file to be displayed in the viewfinder or on screen.) I don't want to reduce the size of the originals (obviously), so I can use the "Process Multiple Files" in Elements to copy the Jpegs and make smaller copies for upload. I DO NOT want to have to hold the CTRL key down while I select 250 individual Jpeg files manually since that is the ONLY option in the sort sequence they appear in currently. If Adobe provided the ability to sort the files in a folder "by size" or "by extension", then I could easily deal with only the Jpegs, but in their infinite wisdom, Adobe neglected to include the ability to handle files by this logical method. So my only option appears to be to create a new folder and put the CR2 (and XPM) files in the new folder until I am ready to post-process the files chosen by my client.
The point of my inquiry was to find out if Adobe DID provide a way to dealing with a large number of files in a logical and efficient manner, and the response above doesn't really tell me that they did. My assumption from the above response is that Adobe did NOT provide an efficient method of isolating files by type or size. I CAN use Windows to do this, but then it appears Elements Organizer gets all confused. If Adobe had the foresight to provide for an efficient way to do this, the problem wouldn't exist.
Or am I just too dense to understand an easy, quick solution to dealing with ONLY the Jpegs, resizing them for quick and view-only upload to a gallery, and retaining the integrity of the Elements organizer.???????
Big-Al-Photoman wrote:
A --- "Find > by Filename" ? That is the default, and already shows in this sequence. Filename creates a sequence of CR2, Jpeg, XMP, CR2, Jpeg, XMP, CR2, Jpeg, XPM, etc. etc.
Clearly, you haven't understood properly. It is not a default. I am referring to a menu option. You go to the Find menu in the PSE organizer, then select "by Filename" and then type in CR2 and press ENTER.
B --- again, not sure if Adobe just didn't understand the question or I am too dense to understand the answer. I am going to reduce the size of the Jpeg files so I can upload them to an online gallery so the clients can view the shots taken. I am obviously not going to upload the RAW files or the XPM (I assume the thumbnail created to allow the RAW file to be displayed in the viewfinder or on screen.) I don't want to reduce the size of the originals (obviously), so I can use the "Process Multiple Files" in Elements to copy the Jpegs and make smaller copies for upload. I DO NOT want to have to hold the CTRL key down while I select 250 individual Jpeg files manually since that is the ONLY option in the sort sequence they appear in currently. If Adobe provided the ability to sort the files in a folder "by size" or "by extension", then I could easily deal with only the Jpegs, but in their infinite wisdom, Adobe neglected to include the ability to handle files by this logical method. So my only option appears to be to create a new folder and put the CR2 (and XPM) files in the new folder until I am ready to post-process the files chosen by my client.
Obviously, you didn't understand. If you want to reduce the size of your JPGs and then upload, you select the JPGs by Find > by Filename, so then yout have all the JPGs found; and then Ctrl-A to select them all, and then create the reduced size photos via File->Export->As New File. (Of course, you can also do this to the RAWs as well, resulting in a reduced size JPG -- and then you don't even need the original JPGs)
The point of my inquiry was to find out if Adobe DID provide a way to dealing with a large number of files in a logical and efficient manner, and the response above doesn't really tell me that they did. My assumption from the above response is that Adobe did NOT provide an efficient method of isolating files by type or size.
The efficient way of doing this has been explained, and does exist in PSE.
Or am I just too dense to understand an easy, quick solution to dealing with ONLY the Jpegs, resizing them for quick and view-only upload to a gallery, and retaining the integrity of the Elements organizer.???????
No further comment.
OK, maybe you can clarify slightly ... I just started working with Raw files so I have a limited number all in one location. I have tried clicking on Find, then on By Filename, and I get a gray screen that says "no files found with this combination of filenames and filters."
I have approximately 30000 files cataloged in Elements. Of these, all are jpg except for approx. 250 CR2 files just saved today and in one folder. So I DO have Raw files. I also tried to select JPG and received the same message ...
? I have tried entering in the following manner: CR2, *.CR2, JPG, *.JPG, jpg, *.jpg, Am I doing anything wrong?
? I am unaware of any other "filters". I didn't intentionally set any other filters that I know of, and I certainly wouldn't want you to have to become condescending toward me for neglecting to include this info. (Excellent customer service, by the way.)
? When I do a "Find" is it going to look in only the "active" folder I had open when I start the find, or is it searching the entire catalog of folders? I am puzzled by not finding "jpg" since the system reports to me that there are in excess of 30,000 files (lower right corner, nothing to do with the Find option).
I have also tried looking in the help screens for this without any success. Any help would be appreciated.
First, and most importantly, be aware that this forum is a user-to-user forum; and, as such, has the participation of volunteers who are consumers and who have no connection with Adobe. When Adobe employees do participate, they are clearly labelled as Adobe employees.
Now, to your search problem: switch your Display Option to use "Thumbnail" view and try the search again. Folder view only accommodates the currently "opened" folder.
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