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Import MXF file into premiere

Jul 31, 2012 10:48 PM

Tags: #file #cs5 #premiere #canon #to #convert #mxf #workflow #xf100

Hi,

 

I'm using a canon XF100 and premiere pro CS5 on a Mac Pro.

 

I would like to know the best workflow so I can get footage from the camera, into premiere so I can start editing.

 

 

My attempts so far:

 

1. Importing the MXF file directly into premiere

 

Result: When dropping the clip onto the timeline, only the audio appears

 

2. Using XCam Transfer to import the footage and convert to .mov

 

Result: The audio and video appear on the time line, but the audio is shorter than the video and skips and jumps

 

 

 

Your advice and patience is greatly appreciated.

 

Maxwell

 
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    Aug 1, 2012 12:56 AM   in reply to Maxwell84

    Hi Maxwell

     

    There has been reportet audioproblems reg. MXF-files here:

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1022632?tstart=0

     

    Apparently Adome is working on a fix.

     

    If you copy the content of your memory card onto your harddrive before you import it, be sure to copy everythning in the same folder structure, to ensure correct import.

     

    Have you tried the media browser inside Premiere or just the import command?

     

    /Ulf

     
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    Aug 1, 2012 3:18 AM   in reply to Maxwell84

    The camera comes with the XF utility program.

    Have you tried that to get the files on to the computer.

    I am on windows and no trouble editing the files.

     
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    Aug 1, 2012 5:41 AM   in reply to Ann Bens

    There are two ways I have been successful:

     

    1. Copy just the MXF files from the memory card to the computer and import those files into your project.  PPr will create PEK files, but not conform them.  You will have to arrange them manually (join the spanned clips yourself).  Even with this method the audio sometimes disappears and you have to restart PPr to get it back.
    2. Use the Canon XF Utility to create a single MXF file of your spanned clips on the memory card and import the new file into the project.  PPr will create a PEK file and not conform.  I have not lost the audio with this method (yet).

     

    I prefer method 2 even though it takes a little longer to create.  I can name the file to whatever I want.  Keeping all the spanned clips straight with the default camera naming scheme is difficult sometimes.

     

    Regardless of the above methods, once I have the video arranged on the timeline, I'll render and replace the audio.  It's another added step, but it guarantees the audio won't disappear.

     
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    Aug 1, 2012 10:23 AM   in reply to DaveTrayers

    We run with multiple XF100 cameras ona regular basis (on both Mac Pro and Windows).  Here is what I do.

     

    1) Copy the ENTIRE card to a folder of its own.  We tend to name them XF1, XF2, XF3 but you can call them what you want.

     

    2) In the Premiere Pro media browser navigate to where these folders are and choose one of the folders.  The thumbnails should appear in the media browser and you simply select them and drag them to the project window. 

     

    Job done.  Premiere Pro will correctly join all the clips where required, so you only have as many clips as the number of times you hit record.

     

    Now drag them to the sequence and go.

     

    It's a while since I used CS5 (we're now on CS6 via CS5.5) but I don't recall having any problems.  Make sure you updated to the latest version of CS5 though because I do recall an early bug where MXF files caused Pr to eat up lots of memory.

     
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    Sep 24, 2012 7:48 PM   in reply to Maxwell84

    In order to import MXF to Adobe Premiere Pro CS5/CS4, you can convert MXF to MPEG-2 HD or MP4 HD to import to MXF Premiere Pro CS5/CS4 for edit. Here is a step-by-step guide:

     

    http://www.techisky.com/how-to/convert-mxf-to-1080p-720p.html

     
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  • Al Bergstein
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    Sep 24, 2012 9:52 PM   in reply to UlfLaursen

    I am on W7  64, have both an xf305 and 105 and no problems importing mxf into Pr 6. I believe you may need to upgrade to 5.5 to solve the problem, as the 300 came out about the time of 5.0. They worked on 5.5 with no problems for me.

     

    Once there, You can use the backup function in the utility or Export to MxF which allows you to rename the files in batch mode and export w/othe file structur. Much more useful!

     

    I think, it seems to me that the Mac platform is having more problems than Windows, but it's only a guess.

     
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    Sep 25, 2013 9:05 AM   in reply to Maxwell84

    You need to convert  MXF to H.264 codec MOV format for using MXF files in Adobe Premiere, you can try freeware Handbrake, I have tested converting a short .mxf file to a .mov file using HandBreak. It works  well on quicktime and iMovie. Handbrake also supports to convert video all nearly all the formats. I think it may be your best selection for video converting.

     
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    Sep 25, 2013 9:12 AM   in reply to nission

    You need to convert  MXF to H.264 codec MOV format for using MXF files in Adobe Premiere

     

    That is simply not true.

     

    For starters, MXF is nothing more than a container.  Like MOV or AVI, it can hold quite a few video and audio types.  Unlike MOV (but like AVI), it is strictly a container format, and is not subject to being a 32 or 64 bit process, bugs, it doesn't need be installed or updated, or other irregularities.  Of the three, MOV is the worst choice for a container.  MXF is the best, and AVI second best.

     

    Having said that, what determines whether or not a particular MXF file will work in a specific version of PP is whether or not support for that video format is included in that version of PP.

     

    If you find that your version of PP doesn't handle that video, then conversion may well be in order, but another MXF, an AVI, or even an MP4 if using H.264, is a better option than MOV.

     
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    Sep 25, 2013 9:55 AM   in reply to nission

    Premiere handles Canon mxf files just fine.

    Copy CONTENTS from the card into a folder of its own and call it e.g. card 1

    In the Media Browser navigate to card 1 and voila the clips appear.

    If you do not want all the metadate and single files (as each clip is in its own folder)

    use the XF Utitilty and export to MXF.

     
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    Sep 25, 2013 2:07 PM   in reply to Ann Bens

    This thread started in 2012, by someone running CS5. I'm surprised that nission even bothered to answer the question given that the OP hasn't been back to get any more info. . I have no idea if CS5 had a problem with MXF files or not,if that's what Nission was saying, then please clarify,  but 5.5 and beyond has had no problems, as I use it frequently. For any future readers of this thread, Ann's analysis is correct.

     
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    Jan 23, 2014 6:46 AM   in reply to JerryAimee

    Who converts native format that can easily be edited in PR to some intermediate with whatever software, reducing quality, extending conversion time, increasing storage requirements when it is utterly NOT necessary? Something must be wrong here...

     
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    Feb 2, 2014 10:55 AM   in reply to cc_merchant

    I actually have a question.....something weird is going on. I have Adobe PPro CS6 and am having trouble with not getting Canon MXF files into PPro, but getting them imported as on clip. I have tried EVERY method available and discussed and they still show as multiple 5 minute chunks. Also, under properties, they are showing as "XDCAM-HD" movie dlips and not Canon MXF. They are all shot on one of my three Canon XF100's. All 1080p and 50MB/s rates. I use the project setting for Canon MXF 1080p 29.97. I have copied the ENTIRE contents of my memory cards to their own subdirectory(folder)on my RAID Capture drive. It does not make any difference if I use media browser or just file/import - they just will not be joined for editing (or even shown that way) by PPro. The reason this is such an issue is that I use PluralEyes to synch the mutliple angle shots, and though PluralEyes sees them as one clip, Premiere does not, and it is causing import audio/video editors on the clips lasting longer than 5 minutes.....there is no video or audio, and I believe it is because though PE is seeing the clip as one joined file, PPro is not. The only way that I have gotten PPro to see the files as Canon MXF is if I stick the Memory card itself in - and why would anyone ant to import or work with files directly on CF cards? Please, please someone help.

     
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  • Al Bergstein
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    Feb 2, 2014 11:06 AM   in reply to Shao Lung

    Shao: can you try re-importing off the card by using the XF utilities? I would try both normal backup or export as MXF.

     
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    Feb 3, 2014 8:54 AM   in reply to Al Bergstein

    Al,

    Thanks for the advice. I "backed up" the card to a folder on my HD, renamed it to correspond with the project and imported media using media browser. Worked like a charm. Awsesome. Now if I can only get PluralEyes 3.2 to work within PPro itself I would be set. I have a tech request out to Red Giant on this. It works standalone fine but not by using the connector extension within PPro. Again, thank you, the backup option worked perfectly.

     
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    Feb 3, 2014 9:09 AM   in reply to Shao Lung

    Glad it worked.

     
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