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CS6 Icon View Sort Order

Jun 5, 2012 7:09 AM

Is there a way to change the sort order in Icon view?   I want it to adheire to what ever sort order I had in column view, so that i can see clips from multiple cameras in timecode order next to each other, but instead I seem to get all the clips from one camera, then the next camera and so on.  

 

It's making it almost useless for skimming through clips in chronological order from multiple cameras.

 

What am I missing?

 

Is this yet 'another' feature request I'm going to have to make?

 
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    Jun 5, 2012 7:11 AM   in reply to ExactImage

    There's no automatic sort for Icon view.  The point here is to manually arrange the clips in a sort of a storyboard fashion.

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 11:22 AM   in reply to ExactImage

    Put your request into a feature request.

    FEATURE request

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 11:31 AM   in reply to ExactImage

    Thanks for the FR!

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 3:24 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    Adobe can you arrange these in to time code order

     

    Go back to List mode for that.

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 3:31 PM   in reply to ExactImage
    I may as well use list mode and double click to load in to the source monitor

     

    Exactly.

     

     

    Is that so wrong?

     

    To ask?  No.  But, until you can...smiley up.png

     

     

     

    (Personally, I think the better request might be to allow Hover Scrub in List mode.)

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 3:35 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    Why not?  You can always resize them to suit your needs.

     
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    Jun 5, 2012 10:39 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    I've submitted a request for this too. Icon View is handy, but I can't see myself ever arranging clips into a storyboard with it. I'd much prefer it if you could automatically arrange it by the same sort options available to List View.

     
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    Jun 6, 2012 2:48 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    I'm glad to see so many other people came up with this problem as well. There is deffinatly no controlling the sort order at this point in icon view. If anything it seems to be dictated by import order.

     
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    Jun 6, 2012 3:15 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    Report submitted.

     
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    Jun 6, 2012 6:05 PM   in reply to LetsEditThis

    How would you set up the interface for sort order? Select clips, and then right click to choose the sort category? Just wondering how you pictured it would be. I recall that FCP did it this way, but one could only sort by name or duration. The context menu could get quite unruly if all sort categories were available on a context menu.

     

    How would you do it?

     
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    Jun 6, 2012 11:37 PM   in reply to Kevin Monahan

    I don't think I'd have it set up to select clips, I just can't think of a situation where I'd want some items in a bin organised but others not. Right click on background of bin  with a contextual menu. Mosty I'd want to sort by name, timecode, online/offline, and possibly codec (for splitting up proxies versions from camera originals). People could always copy their bin before sorting it, so they could have one organised as a storyboard and another organised in... well... a good way, is how I'd put it!

     

    What if the items on the contextual menu were definied by the list headings a user had set up in List View? That way if someone had some strange criteria they needed to sort by they could add it, but would also be able to keep the length of the menu in check if needed? Customisable yet contained.

     

    And definitely the ability to add keyboard shortcuts for the various sort functions. More keyboard shortcuts in general please! Track patching would be great. And there's a lot of functions that need the particular panel they relate to to be highlighted before the keyboard shortcut works.... I would LOVE if this went away. If I hit the key for Toggle All Target Video On, I pretty much want it to just turn on the target video, and I'd really love it to do it without having to click on the sequence first. Lots of examples of this sort of thing, basically anything that's a "panel" function. Some of it is just kooky, for example I have "Source Clip: Previous" mapped as a shortcut key. When I hit this key, of course it relates to the Source monitor! Having to bring up the source monitor AND THEN hit the keyboard shortcut is just unnecessarily cumbersome, and often ends up in a situation where it's not just an extra keystroke, it's several extra keystrokes because you end up having to bring up a panel to do a function, and then bring up the previous panel to be able to continue what you were doing. Lots of extra keystrokes that I think could easily be made more efficient. I've submitted a request for this as well, I called it Keyboard Shortcuts Should Always Work. (Sorry, kind of wandered off topic there).

     
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    Jun 8, 2012 10:50 AM   in reply to ExactImage

    Love your ideas guys. Hope you have submitted requests.

    Jim, I agree that you shouldn't have to select a panel before applying a keyboard shortcut. Not smooth behavior, I hope you have submitted that one. Regarding track patching, we know it's a major request.

     
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    Jun 18, 2012 10:52 AM   in reply to Kevin Monahan

    Feature request submitted.

     

    This is a no brainer for me, working with HUNDREDS of clips from an event and want to go through clips in chronological order of the clips as they were shot.

     

    At the moment I'm not even using icon view as clips are placed all over the place  

     

    Great feature, just needs ability to sort by filename!

     

    thanks

     

    Steve

     
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    Jun 18, 2012 11:18 AM   in reply to Kevin Monahan

    Simply give us an option to display in the same order as List view. That's how Avid does it, while still allowing you to drag the clips into custom order if you want it. Actually, Avid goes one further and allows you to move you Icons to wherever you want, even leaving space between them, etc.

     

    In the feature world we use this quite often to sort our dailies takes. Scene 1 takes on one line, Scene 1a takes on another, Scene 1b on another, etc. Extremely useful, but I realize that would take a complete redo of the Icon view. The ability to match the list view would be a start.

     

    Avid_Bin.png

     

    Chris Conlee

     
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    Jul 3, 2012 11:09 AM   in reply to conleec

    Submited also here.how they don't insert this option?

     
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    Jul 4, 2012 11:45 AM   in reply to Arthur Velly

    My work around was import all the clips from the media browser in the proj panel.Now they are in order in icon view. hope that`s help

     
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    Jul 4, 2012 12:03 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    that didn't put them in the order we want.

     

    So move them.  That's the whole point of Icon mode.

     
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    Jul 4, 2012 12:12 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    I use to import a folder via file > import.

    My clips where : clip_1, clip_2....

    In icon view the clips where not in  cronological order when importing the bin.

    When importing the clips from the media browser (draged from MB to p.panel,in cronological order) they appear to me in the way I want.This may not be the order i want.

    Forgive my english.

     
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    Jul 4, 2012 12:20 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    at least for me they are in cronoligical order now

     
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    Jul 4, 2012 9:04 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    The whole point of icon mode is so that you can see the thumbnail view of a clip and skim it.

     

    No, you can do that in List mode as well with the Preview Area turned on.  The 'point' of Icon mode has always been manual sorting.

     

    (Though I will admit, Hover Scrubbing in List mode would be a welcome addition.)

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 6:59 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Having just come across this 'feature' in my new CS6, my vote goes with those who want to sort the order automatically in icon view acording to criteria like filename, date/time from metadata etc. The hover-scrub feature with variable-sized previews is a very quick way to select clips from a set of similar views, for example. Much better than using the list view tiny replay window.

     

    I tag my AVCHD filenames with date/time from EXIF to make life easier, but PPro CS6 jumbles the order in icon view which is less than helpful.  The ability to tag clips with eg star ratings in icon view (like Bridge) would also be very helpful when weeding out useful material from a mass of clips.

     
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    Jul 17, 2012 7:20 AM   in reply to akribie

    Having now used it a bit longer and thought a bit more, I think that a better answer might be to have MiniBridge available inside PPro and include the scrub-preview facility from PPro in Bridge.

     
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    Aug 1, 2012 5:03 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    Add me to the list of people who desperately need this feature in order for hover scrubbing to be useful. Request submitted.

     
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    Aug 1, 2012 7:14 PM   in reply to ExactImage

    I agree 100% that sorting options like name and date/time created NEED to be available in ICON VIEW. So annoying its not possible. Request Submitted.

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 7:37 AM   in reply to ExactImage

    We did already, said "request submitted" at the bottom of our posts. And I disagree, I think if someone searches this issue and sees indication that more and more people are submitting it, it encourages them to submit themselves. I think the whole "one vote doesn't make a difference" mentality often keeps people from submitting things.

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 8:29 AM   in reply to Red Planet Pictures

    Agreed. I did submit because:

     

    1) It was easy as someone posted the link above.

     

    2) I saw others submitting so I figured I'd join "the crowd"

     

    I've been using FCP for years so I don't really know how good Adobe is at implementing requests or how fast for something like this but I'm hoping it's sooner than later.

     
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    Aug 2, 2012 1:26 PM   in reply to DMH79

    Don't count on sooner.  They just released CS6 and I'm sure are devoting most of their time to bug fixes rather then new features.  (At least, I hope so.)

     
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