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Differences between Acrobat 9 and Acrobat X at soft proof

Aug 1, 2012 10:45 AM

Categories: Macintosh Tags: #acrobat #x #pro #preview #ausgabevorschau #isocoated

Hi!

 

Under Mac OSX 10.8 there is a critical error on output preview.

 

A PDF with the ISOCoatedv2 colorprofil looks very different at Acrobat 9 Pro and Acrobat X Pro.

 

The preview in Photoshop, Illustrator and Acrobat 9 is correct.

The complete same file at Acrobat X Pro looks verry different! (in each app the simulation is on IsoCoatedv2)

 

on top the acrobat X Pro (red is to dark)

on the pic below is the correct one in Acrobat 9.

 

What can i do, that Acrobat X Pro shows me correct colors (the same whicht Acrobat 9 shows)?!

http://www.macfix.de/images/uploaded/2012073119584450181cd4eae2c.jpg

1423 Views   10 Replies   Latest reply: Sandeep V., Apr 5, 2013 4:21 AM
 
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  • Test Screen Name
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    1. Test Screen Name,
    Aug 1, 2012 12:28 PM   in reply to thorx1308
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    Try hovering the mouse over a particular part of the image (zoom in to get it precisely, perhaps extreme top left). The 'separations' field should show the amount of each ink. Are the answers the same? What are the colours?

     
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  • thorx1308
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    2. thorx1308,
    Aug 2, 2012 10:55 AM   in reply to Test Screen Name
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    Here: it´s the completly same file. And same amount of ink.

    On the left side the correct Acrobat 9 Pro Screenshot.

    On the right, the dark Acrobat X Pro Screenshot.

    I do not understand this. How can this happen, and why i am the only one with this problem?!acr.jpg

     
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  • Test Screen Name
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    3. Test Screen Name,
    Aug 2, 2012 12:09 PM   in reply to thorx1308
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    Compare the Color Preferences in both Acrobat versions. Especially, the value of "black point compensation" - this can make a difference like this. (My starting point was identical colours until I changed it).

     
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  • Steve Werner
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    4. Steve Werner,
    Aug 2, 2012 12:19 PM   in reply to Test Screen Name
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    I think "Test Screen Name" means the Color Management preferences.

     
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  • thorx1308
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    5. thorx1308,
    Aug 3, 2012 1:46 PM   in reply to Steve Werner
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    The preferences are completly the same:

    Bildschirmfoto 2012-08-03 um 22.41.14.jpgBildschirmfoto 2012-08-03 um 22.41.24.jpg

     

    Do you don´t have the same problem at osx 10.8 ?

     
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  • AirosStudioInc
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    6. AirosStudioInc,
    Oct 31, 2012 10:59 AM   in reply to thorx1308
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    I have the same problem. Did you find a fix?

     
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  • m0m0.1234567890
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    7. m0m0.1234567890,
    Nov 1, 2012 8:51 AM   in reply to AirosStudioInc
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    what fix? adobe must have changed the way they access/translate data to the monitor color space and didn't tell anyone about it. wouldn't have been the first time and sure wont be the last. no preference panel allows you access to those settings. leaving us with no choice but once again bow to adobes monopoly power.

     

    how come microsoft got sued over a similar issue and adobe?

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft

     

    and those color management preferences got nothing to do with the way a pdf is rendered on your screen, that's only to describe items that don't have a profile attached (device colorspaces).

     

    acrobat 11 does exactly the same. sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

     

    just checked, the worse your monitor profile is, the bigger the display error. acrobat 11 (and i guess 10 as well) readjust the display. try changing the monitor profile in system preferences and watch acrobat 11 reset its display within a few seconds. it displays correctly for about half a second and than its back to some unrelated display mode.

     

    thnaks for the great find!

     
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  • m0m0.1234567890
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    8. m0m0.1234567890,
    Nov 1, 2012 9:31 AM   in reply to m0m0.1234567890
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    oops, my bad, acrobat 10 is not as bad as the new version 11. specially acrobat 11 is a strange beast, hard to guess what it is doing there. try disbling the page cache and you get more funky issues. only acrobat 9 renderes the colors according to photoshop.

     

    still - where are my options to adjust adobes display calculations to my monitor profile?

     

    Screen Shot 2012-11-01 at 17.00.14 .jpg

     

    i did pick a way out there monitor profile to exagerate the effect!

     
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  • m0m0.1234567890
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    9. m0m0.1234567890,
    Nov 1, 2012 9:47 AM   in reply to m0m0.1234567890
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    here the effect i was refering to a bit earlier. funky how acrobat 11 retains some setings even after a restart. clicking the tools panel resets those at times as does changing the preferences. very unpredictable.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-11-01 at 17.38.17 .jpg

    Screen Shot 2012-11-01 at 17.38.31 .jpg

     
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  • Sandeep V.
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    10. Sandeep V.,
    Apr 5, 2013 4:21 AM   in reply to m0m0.1234567890
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    Hi All,

     

    We are aware of this issue. To track latest updates on the fix, please join this thread: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1059137?start=80&tstart=0

     

    ~Sandeep V.

     
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