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How do I correct in an existing client site, DW 8 menu drop downs that are not visible in MS Vista?

Aug 3, 2012 5:31 PM

An existing web site: see page sample here- www.fwgraphicdesign.com/GardensatPalisades/index.html does not show the drop down menu items for each menu choice. they work fine in Firefox, Safari, Chrome, but not Vista. What do you sugest, and is there a fix?  Pages are created in Dreamweaver 8

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  • adninjastrator
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    1. adninjastrator,
    Aug 3, 2012 5:36 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    Drop down? or do you mean flyout from the menu items?

    And by Vista, do you mean Internet Explorer? and if so, which version are you using?

     
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  • fvrw
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    2. fvrw,
    Aug 3, 2012 5:41 PM   in reply to adninjastrator
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    Yes, I guess you call them flyouts...and I believe they are using Vista 7

     
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    Aug 3, 2012 5:44 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    Vista is probably the operating system... so do you mean Internet Explorer browser?

    From the browser main menu, click "Help" and then "About" to find the version of Internet Explorer.

     
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    Aug 3, 2012 5:46 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    Sorry, yes Internet explorer-used by a community oon differerent versions I woud think.

     
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    Aug 3, 2012 5:49 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    I know it is at least version 6 up

     
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  • adninjastrator
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    Aug 3, 2012 6:24 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    Well it works fine in IE8... so we need to narrow this down a little.

    First, validate your page code here:

    http://validator.w3.org/

    There are 2 major error related to the menu.

    Fix those and then test in Adobe Browser Lab to zero in on the exact version of IE that is the problem.

    https://browserlab.adobe.com/en-us/index.html

    Best of luck!

    Adninjastrator

     
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  • fvrw
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    Aug 3, 2012 6:46 PM   in reply to adninjastrator
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    Thanks...doing it now.

     
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    Aug 3, 2012 8:10 PM   in reply to fvrw
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    The Adobe browserlab only shows a screenshot of the page...not the active fly outs.

     
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    9. adninjastrator,
    Aug 4, 2012 8:53 AM   in reply to fvrw
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    Well the flyouts look fine in IE8 and 9.... so that leaves possible issues with much older version...6 and/or 7. Their market share is pretty small now a days...

    I don't have either of those old browsers so I really can't test... sorry..

    That menu looks like it was build around a rather old, convoluted method... may be rather hard to fix. If you really want to target those old IE browsers, then you might want to just redo the menu with straight css.

    Tons of free examples on the internet:

    http://www.cssmenus.co.uk/flyout.html

    http://www.cssplay.co.uk/menus/example_flyout.html

    Best of luck!

    Adninjastrator

     
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  • Nancy O.
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    10. Nancy O.,
    Aug 4, 2012 9:26 AM   in reply to fvrw
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    Well, there a couple of things wrong.

     

    Problem #1:  Missing document type.  Without a valid doc type, the page runs in Quirks Mode which confuses many browsers - especially IE. 

     

    Solution:

    • Go to Modify > Page properties > Title/Encoding > Doc Type >
    • Select a doc type that matches your code: (XHTML 1.0 Transitional). 
    • Hit Apply, OK.  Save. 
    • Repeat with other site pages.

     

    Problem #2:  MM Rollover Menus.  Possibly the worst menu system ever created, it's not too surprising that they don't work well in all browsers. You can read the sordid story about them below:

    http://losingfight.com/blog/2006/08/11/the-sordid-tale-of-mm_menufw_me nujs/

     

    Solution:

    Get rid of the awful MM Rollovers and replace them with a CSS menu system.

     

     

     

    Good luck!

     

     

    Nancy O.

     
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  • MurraySummers
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    Aug 4, 2012 9:28 AM   in reply to adninjastrator
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    When you say this -

     

    That menu looks like it was build around a rather old, convoluted method

     

    You are being too kind.  That menu approach (legacy code from Macromedia days) has been thoroughly debunked even by the author of the code (read this to see - http://losingfight.com/blog/2006/08/page/3/).

     

    And when you say -

     

    may be rather hard to fix.

     

    You have understated the case!  Get rid of those nasty menus!  They have NO redeeming value - really....

     
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  • adninjastrator
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    Aug 4, 2012 10:11 AM   in reply to MurraySummers
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    Thanks for the comments Murray! LOL!!

     
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    Aug 4, 2012 10:12 AM   in reply to Nancy O.
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    @Nancy - I had to look around on Andy's blog to find the right link.  It has changed to the one I just posted.

     
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  • fvrw
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    14. fvrw,
    Aug 4, 2012 12:52 PM   in reply to MurraySummers
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    Thanks everyone for the responses..this has been a nightmare project from day one..I will most definitely look into Menu Magic...Nothing like inheriting someone elses old files and having to make them work. You all have at least made me realizewhat I have to do.

     

    I appreciate the feedback...took me hours to get to this information. There is not much about it anywhere.

     
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