Machine is Win XP and Audition CS6 has the patch (it applied itself) Had been working fine but suddenly all our Waves plugs are gone. I ran the manager, re-pointed it to the program files/waves directory and also tried pointing to program files/waves/plug-ins directory. It rescans everything, finds the waveshells but not the plugs which are DLLs in the program files/waves/plug ins directory.
It's not an I-lock thing, we have CS5.5 on the same system and it still finds all the Waves stuff fine. (2 bundles, both authorized via Ilocks and they work fine) Both CS6 and 5.5 continue to find all our Izotope plugs and UAD-2 plugs too. (Izotope stuff is auth via a flash drive)
So, I'm betting something is corrupted. I deleted ALL 3rd party plug ins in CS6 and repeated all the above, with the same result-- no Waves plugs but everything else works (it finds all but the Waves ones)
Is there an INI or something I need to delete and that Audition will then recreate to find the Waves stuff? Or perhaps a reg key I need to look at and reset? Pls let me know, otherwise only other solution will probably be to restore the whole C drive from a Ghost image from when CS6 was working fine and then re-apply the recent patch if the last image we ran didn't have that installed yet.
Thx in advance for the help-- weird problem since everything still works fine in CS5.5 (and also in AA3.01 for that matter) and all worked fine with CS6 too until today. Always stuff happens when you need it of course, but was able to take the SESX file into CS5.5 and finish the project we were working on thank goodness.
Solved this morning by just restoring just ONE XML FILE from a Ghost image backup. If this happens to anyone else on XP, here's what you can do (so long as you have a C drive backup or image from when it worked).
1. Be sure in XP you have "show hidden folders" enabled (folder options)
2. On the C drive, go to this folder (full path below) and be sure [yourusername] is the user acct involved with your AA installation: It will vary depending on how your system is set up. If you have other versions of AA installed, it's real impt you navigate to the 5.0 folder in path below. (We have AA3.01 and CS5.5 on this system along with CS6 with patch)
C:\Documents and settings\[yourusername]\Application Data\Adobe\Audition\5.0\
3. Now find the file AudioPlugInManagerSettings.xml
4. Rename that file on your C drive to something like AudioPlugInManagerSettings_OLD.xml (or whatever else you like)
5. Now restore the AudioPlugInManagerSettings.xml file from your backup or image to the same location above.
And, the Waves plugs are back in CS6. How this XML file got corrupted in our case is beyond me, but looking at the XML text in the one on the C drive before fixing, it had the Waveshell entries but not the actual Waves plug ins. And despite deleting all plugs in CS6's plug in manager and rescanning as I posted above, the actual plug in DLLs were not getting found (tried a few times as noted in orig. post). They were in a folder the plug in manager was pointed to - same way we have had them in CS5.5 for a long time (and CS6 too until suddenly they were gone)
So, in the end, did not have to restore the whole C drive, just the one XML file. Total fix time (once we figured this out!) - about 1 minute. Don't know about other imaging programs, but for Ghost using XP, you can find the individual file easily with Backup Image Browser in Ghost and restore to original location directly from that.
Weird how only the Waves stuff got corrupted, yet deleting and re-installing all other plugs (UA, Izotope, others) worked fine repeatedly each time we tried. Each time CS6 found all of them. It always found the Waveshells and enumerated numerous "parts" of those shells each time it ran, but never found the plugs themselves. Funny, given the shells are in same folder as the actual plug in DLLs are.
Anyhow, hope this helps others. Back to audio work here!
Thx Steve-- I somewhat suspected that might be the case, but tried what I posted first and it worked so stuck with it! My concern was whether Audition would have then dropped some of its own "native" and Adobe licensed plugs, good to know that it would not from your note though!
Hard to figure how that XML got trashed in first place, though.
Rich LePage wrote:
My concern was whether Audition would have then dropped some of its own "native" and Adobe licensed plugs, good to know that it would not from your note though!
Hard to figure how that XML got trashed in first place, though.
No, one of the good things about this approach is that you can delete pretty much all of the .xml files - and Audition will re-establish vanilla versions of them, complete with all internal plugins.
One of the not-so-good things about this particular way of using .xml files is that they are, inevitably, vulnerable at the point that they are re-written - ie, if you change something whilst running the program. I don't know if Adobe has changed its practice here, but at one stage they appeared to be running the app on the actual xml file, rather than creating a local copy of it (I'll probably be jumped on if I've got that wrong...), and that could definitely cause potential vulnerability problems. I think that their take on it is that since there's a guaranteed re-establishing mechanism, that in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter so much. And of course, if you've backed them up, then you can always re-establish your own versions anyway.
And this is probably the point to do a shameless plug for SuiteSpot's AuditionFX app, that will enable you to do all of your backups for settings and FX with consumate ease!
SteveG(AudioMasters) wrote:
And this is probably the point to do a shameless plug for SuiteSpot's AuditionFX app, that will enable you to do all of your backups for settings and FX with consumate ease!
As far as I can see AuditionFX only works with AA 3.01 or earlier, at least it does on my machine. (And I've checked I'm running the latest version.)
Or have I missed something rather obvious?
Oh well!! Guess I'll stick to using Ghost for now with it then, though Steve's "delete" thought also seems applicable if stuff like this happens again.
And maybe SuiteSpot will at some point update AuditionFX. But he's done a huge amount for many AA users already with his other stuff, so no rush, he has been very giving to the AA community for a long time.
Thanks for that
Just checked it out - it seems that I had done a bit of work on this but had never updated it.
I don't have time to write a new installer right this minute (maybe in a day or three) but if you want to email me directly (via the web site) I'd be happy to send you the replacement executable file if it helps
Edit: I have manged to cobble together an old installer and updated the web site - let me know how it goes
Just FYI, the installer advised some files were missing and offered to add them - then tells the user to restart to run it again. However, when you do that, it still comes up with the same message and so does not install. No rush, but let us know when you've sorted that out and will try it again then -- again thx for all your work which benefits so many AA users. (This system is XP btw)
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