Passwords are disabled on my remote server for security reasons, as recommend by Amazon for users of Amazon Web Services. SSH connections to my remote server are enabled via public/private key-pair files. I can't find anywhere in Dreamweaver 5.5 or Contribute 5.1 where I can enter my private key file (like I can with WinSCP) to upload files to my remote server. It seems the only way I can connect to my remote server with Dreamweaver is by using a password. I can't believe Dreamweaver can possibly be such an amatuer product with such a professional price tag - Dreamweaver surely must support private key files?? - what am I missing? ![]()
Dreamweaver surely must support private key files...
Not that I know of. I'm fairly certain you must use a dedicated SFTP like Filezilla + Putty.
http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Howto
Nancy O.
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I've been using Filezilla, Putty and WinSCP for years. It is more than a file transfer issue if I can't use private key files with Dreamweaver, it means I can't use "Live View" and other (expensive) features I'm paying for. I can't even use Adobe Contribute - how unprofessional is that? CS5 is supposed to be a suite of professional developer tools but if it doesn't support private key files the only way I can get value for money from CS5 is to use poor security password access on my remote servers. Sony may be OK with weak server security but I'm certainly not. Is it just me, or do Adobe need to get real?
It is more than a file transfer issue if I can't use private key files with Dreamweaver, it means I can't use "Live View" and other (expensive) features I'm paying for.
I don't understand how "Live View" or other "expensive features" in DW would be effected by your S/FTP settings, but then this is a user-to-user forum and not a help desk.
If keys are vital to your workflow, feel free to post a feature request.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
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This may sound a little sarcastic but unless you're building and maintaining a government, military or banking site with classified or sensitive information in database storage or you're managing your entire e-commerce process (start to finish, as in you're your own payment processor and receiver) all on your own servers, what exactly do you need that kind of security for? It seems that pretty much the rest of the Internet is doing alright without it... or private keys, like CSS and HTML5 would be the rule and not the exception.
I don't get it. I use 24 character cryptic passwords, and have NEVER had a site hacked.
thanks Nancy. Adobe "Live Help" were no help, they sent me here. I really couldn't believe that Adobe would be so amateur as to not support private key files - seems they really are that bad.
To the No Nothing person: Wait til your website gets hacked, then come back all sarcastic. It happened to me, it happened to friends, it happened to Sony. Maybe because you've got no customers or no valuable data you think the hackers will leave you alone - but from what I've seen, they target anything and everything. The only way to be safe is to use public/private keypairs.
Maybe somebody could code a plugin so that Adobe CS5 applications can support private key files? Like Putty does, like WinSCP does, like Filezilla does, and like any professional server connection software would be expected to do.
Maybe somebody could code a plugin so that Adobe CS5 applications can support private key files? Like Putty does, like WinSCP does, like Filezilla does, and like any professional server connection software would be expected to do.
You have a valid point and you're welcome to post a feature request to Adobe.
However, in the many years I've been on these forums, you're one of the few people (if not the first) that I can recall who has asked for this feature.
Perhaps Dreamweaver is simply not the right software for the market that you're in.
I don't feel so bad now. For a little while there, I though I was a total idiot and a smart@$$ all rolled into one.
See, I've built a few dozen sites, and several for businesses. For the ones that needed it I have locked down file access, and as I said, I've NEVER had a site hacked, not through password server access. There was once that an entire server system was compromised, but it was a matter of anyone accessing sites or files on the server. They somehow got into the hosting company's server and basically formatted it. It was only one of more than a hundred at the facility, and it was nothing more than an inconvenience for me as I just reloaded my site on that server. three minutes and I was back up. Not a cent of revenue lost that I could ever trace, because it happened overnight and was back up before 8 am.
Obviously the O.P.'s experience has been very different.
Comparing Dreamweaver, a web design client with FTP cpapbilities... to Putty, strictly a telnet client, WinSCP, strictly an FTP client, and Filezilla, strictly an FTP client, seems an exercise in futility. It's like comapring Notepad to Flash Professional. Sure you can wirte Actionscript in both, but the similarities end there.
I've been here nine years, under a work account until 2009 and on my own since. I've been in the Dreamweaver forum since 2007.
I agree with John that this is the first time I've ever seen this come up.
It may be the shape of things to come, but to me it just seems like overkill right now.
I've NEVER had a site hacked, not through password server access. There was once that an entire server system was compromised, but it was a matter of anyone accessing sites or files on the server. They somehow got into the hosting company's server and basically formatted it.
Passwords are susceptible to brute force attacks. I secure my Amazon EC2 instances according to the best practices outlined by Amazon here: http://aws.amazon.com/articles/1233
What happened to Sony can never happen to my business. My customer data is safe. Is yours?
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What happened to Sony can never happen to my business. My customer data is safe. Is yours?
Sony and Amazon are FAR FAR FAR more subject to being hacked than anything I've built to this date, mostly because my clients aren't uderselling everyone on earth and becuase they don't intentionally tick their customers off with stupid stuff like rootkits in their CDs or firmware flashes in DVDs.
So I feel pretty safe in saying the same. Haven't lost any customer data with 800cart, 2Pay, or PayPal (who I don't use anymore but did briefly back in 2004) in six and a half years.
whatever your security policy is, I'm not going to change mine, I'm sticking with industry best practice as recommended by Amazon where I manage my servers in their AWS cloud.
I've used Dreamweaver for years. I also sell Adobe CS5 to my customers. It is a very expensive product. I want value for money for myself and for my customers. Without support for private key files nobody can use "Live View" or Adobe Contribute and maintain remote server security at the level Amazon recommend as industry best practice. As a professional user and with many of my customers also professional users, it's not much for any of us to expect Adobe to support private key files for such a very expensive product. Filezilla, Putty and WinSCP are all free products which manage to do it. Adobe are taking the p*** with such a high price tag on CS5.
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Sorry to hear about the problems with the DW ftp client, but as Nancy said the only option is to file a feature request, have you done so?
On the security issue, even using encrypted private/public key pairs are no guarantee, but they are more secure than the general user-name/password, (even hashed). Hackers are not interested in if a site is secure or the type of site, for most it is just a question of; "can I hack this site", (and the process is now fully automated, so forget about someone sitting there entering the data).
PZ
the only option is to file a feature request
it's not just Dreamweaver lacking this basic feature, filing a feature request means filling a lengthy form for each of the CS5 products affected. Adobe Contribute is wholly unusable for servers using public/private keypairs. I really am too busy to ask Adobe for stuff they should have done years ago - it's like asking for the obvious, they're not idiots, their livehelp sent me here rather than taking the embarrassment of admitting they don't support private key files. If CS5 were a set of super-cheap amateur tools I wouldn't mind investing my time in helping them improve the product. But when they're asking such a ridiculously high price for a professional product I expect a bit more polish and shine for my money.
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The trouble is, is that if you do not ask it will not be implemented.
Many of us have been asking for new server behaviours such as PHP:PDO and stored procedures, but the simple fact is that not enough people are asking to make it worthwhile. When the function(s) are available via other products, it does not make economic sense to implement it for a small minority of users.
So saying, "I do not have the time" simply means that it is unlikely to ever be implemented. But I can see your point of view
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PZ
Programs like coda, and netbeans ( netbeans is free ) have this feature. We switched over to Amazon EC2 a while ago and believe for security private/public keys are the only way to go.
We have over 30k customers on our site and process thousands of orders a month, I would not trust my sites or my customers security with just an encrypted password. If you have not been hacked I can see your point that it is not needed, but I HAVE been hacked using an encrypted password on a dedicated server and would trust nothing less that key pairs to protect my asset. I own dreamweaver to make easy changes to layout files and some minor php editing and I am a professional that wants the tools to keep my site secure and get my work done.
All that being said we are not talking about rewriting the whole framework of dreamweaver but a simple patch or an addon module.
So all you that say you are protected and your data is protected, I hate to tell you nothing is safe and if you are not up on your security ( as it changes every day ) I wish you the best of luck. As for me I would rather use trusted modern security over luck!
Adobe if your listening this is a needed feature.
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I HAVE been hacked using an encrypted password on a dedicated server and would trust nothing less that key pairs to protect my asset
You would not believe the 'abuse' I get when I point out to people the such 'security' is unsecure, simply because it is the one used by most blogging apps such as wordpress.
Thank you for pointing this out.
PZ
According to David Powers, Adobe improved the FTP client in DW CS6.
http://foundationphp.com/blog/2012/04/23/my-verdict-on-dreamweaver-cs6 /
Beyond that, I don't know... CS6 won't ship until May 7th.
Nancy O.
I 2nd/1000th the call to add key pair usage in Dreamweaver. Adobe know its a major feature thats missing. Even NPPFTP in Notepad++ has the key pair sftp functionality. Petitioning Adobe is BS. They just couldnt be bothered. We pay em enough to build this functionality in. They know its required. Dreamweaver is supposed to be a premium product. It has a premium price anyway. CS6 doesnt have key pair support either btw.
My recommendation is Filezilla and Notepad++ for now. Not being able to connect Dreamweaver into AWS EC2 with key pairs is a joke.
Anyway roll on the fanfare when its introduced in DW CS42.
Since petitioning Adobe appears to be a waste of time I've moved away from developing apps in Dreamweaver, I'm using Netbeans which is free and supports public-private key cryptography.
But that's just me personally. For my customers I shall continue selling Dreamweaver, it's up to them if they want to spend good money for nothing.
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