I think I already know the answer to this which is - no. I'll explain why I am asking the question in a second, but the reason I think the simple answer is no is because - text frames are controlled by a designer in the layout file, an editor using incopy can only edit the text and images placed inside text frames, and so cannot resize them, add or delete them.
Ok, so the reason I have asked this.
One (not so good) way around this is for the designer to add the text frames in the layout file after he gets the content back from the editor, then moving the "tip" paragraphs into these newly created text frames. However when the editor updates the content in incopy and gets these new text frames in their copy, they can not then delete them if they wish to, or if they add or reduce content inside of these green text frames then the frames dont grow to fit their edited content. So I dont think its a solution for the designer to control the adding, removing and resizing of these frames.
UPDATE: I have just discovered that once a text frame has been placed into the document by the designer and the editor updates their copy in incopy- they can then use the "Position Tool" to select that text frame - allowing them to resize it, or delete it! Fantastic. But would the editor be able to add these frames in themselves to begin with? Maybe have a document containing all of the objects available to them, copy and paste one of them into the main document and edit its content? Does anyone have any advice on how to go about this? Essentially I would like the editor to control the insertion, editing and removal of these inline text frames.
I have considered this approach, but, eventually the InDesign layout is getting exported to HTML and an ePub and I would rather export these paragraph styles out to a div tag rather than a table tag.
Is that the only solution?
Do you know if there is a way to do something as explained in the "UPDATE:..." section above?
Oh I am trying to do it myself, but not succeeding as yet. I was asking, as if you knew the answer as being no, then I wouldnt waste my time trying, dont expect you to try things out for me if you dont already know.
Tables instead of seperate frames is a possible solution (thanks for that answer) to this but use of seperate frames would be alot better if I can get a solution to editors working with them easier.
The creation of text is not a problem. An editor can put text into their incopy doc and give it a para style and that comes into the layout file fine, it's the wrapping of that text in a frame to give the visual style seen in the screenshot above that I am trying to achieve via incopy.
True. But when all I am trying to achieve is a border around a paragraph, use of a table seems overkill to me. But if thats the only solution I have so far then I will have to go down that route.
It would be useful to have an object libraries panel in InCopy so that editors can drag across predefined text frames into their doc via InCopy, but I cant see that option in InCopy. is there one? I have also thought about exporting the frames as seperate InDesign Snippets and saving them to an objects folder, then when an editor needs to insert one into their doc they simply use File > Place > "Choose required text frame snippet". However I have found that InCopy can't place InDesign snippets so that theory was a failure. Is there another format I could use to save the objects and bring them into InCopy? List below shows my findings so far for trying to save/export a text frame from InDesign and then import into InCopy:
Do you mean convert the table to text just before performing the export to ePub? So that I only end up exporting a paragraph? That would work, but if I have 500 of these tables in a document to convert to text before exporting it becomes too time consuming on the workflow and prone to human error. Unless there is a mass option to "convert all tables of style 'X' to text" ?
Leaving the table alone and exporting as it is, is a possibility, as i've said previously, but that gives unecessary HTML markup in the exported ePub.
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