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Multiple selections in spectral view

Jun 5, 2012 9:15 AM

Tags: #selection #multiple #lasso #display; #frequency #selections #spectral #tool;

I'm testing CS6 in demo mode. In version 3.0 it was possible to make multiple selections using the lasso tool just by pressing the shift key (as you do in Photoshop or other software like it). Apparently in AA CS6 multiple selections in spectral fequency display using lasso tool or other tools combined are not possible. Or at least, silly me, I can't find the way to it. Can anyone give a hint?

 

Thanks in advance

 
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  • SteveG(AudioMasters)
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    Jun 5, 2012 9:24 AM   in reply to evg2012

    Not possible in Audition CS6, I'm afraid - or if it is, I haven't found out how to either. You have to bear in mind that even though AA3 would do this with the lasso tool, it still had to process each part of the selection separately, so you didn't really save any time (even though it felt as though you were!)

     
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    Aug 9, 2012 1:25 PM   in reply to SteveG(AudioMasters)

    In my work (music research), being able to select multiple sections is indispensable.

    Say, the file contains violin melody with piano accompaniment.

    I can select violin melody (fundamental frequency only first) with digitizer pen using shift-drag method, then "copy to new" - now I have a file containing only the violin line (again fundamental only yet).

    In the original file I can slide the selection up to the next upper partial of violin, copy-to-new, etc.etc..

    After some cleaning up and mixing the new files, I have extracted violin from the original.

    (except when violin/piano play the same note)

     

    I do this in CS3. And I am very disappointed that CS5.5 / 6 won't let me do this, even though the manual says I can.

    In this respect CS5.5 / 6 are unusable.

    I was even hoping that they will add multiple selection with rectangle tool...

     

    I filed a bug report, and hope they will fix it.

     
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    Aug 9, 2012 3:08 PM   in reply to ET.K

    It works OK in my copy of CS6. I make a selection using the Marquee tool and extend it as far as I need horizontally. Copy and paste it into a new empty waveform. Go back to the original file and hover the mouse over the selection until the Hand icon appears. Drag the selection up to the next harmonic. Works with the Lasso tool as well. Also the vertical size of the selection scales to match the Log/Linear setting of the frequency scale.

     
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    Aug 9, 2012 4:23 PM   in reply to ryclark

    Hmmm...

    Can you really do this?::

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    Select a section with lasso tool

    Hold SHIFT key ("Shift-drag" in manual) and try to ADD to the previous selection another section of the spectral display.

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    With my copy of CS5.5 (registered) and CS6 (trial) as soon as you click (with Shift down) on another section, the previous selection goes away.

     
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    Aug 10, 2012 2:39 AM   in reply to ET.K

    Some confusion here. The two things being described aren't the same. One is describing multiple area selections at the same time (even though they don't get processed like that) and the other is talking about repeated single selections - which are perfectly possible. Indeed, it the latter didn't work, there wouldn't be any point in having the tool in the first place!

     
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    Aug 10, 2012 3:21 AM   in reply to SteveG(AudioMasters)

    Shift-click option only works to extend a previously selected area to the clicked position and only works with the marquee tool. You can change the size of selected Marquee or Lasso area by selecting and dragging the handles that appear when the mouse hovers over the edges or corners of the selected area. Hovering over the selected area shows the Hand icon so that you can click and move the selected area elsewhere in your audio.

     

    This part shown in the Help file doesn't seem to work as specified though.

     

    "To add to a lasso or paintbrush selection, Shift-drag. To subtract from the selection, Alt-drag."

    

    I#n# AA3 when you held the Shift or Alt key you got a + or - sign added to the tool icon that then allowed you to add to or subtract from your selection.

     
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