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Problem with shape tool

Aug 5, 2012 2:19 PM

Tags: #problem #issue #cs6 #shape_tool #cs6_beta #custom_shape

For some reason after drawing shapes with the shape tool, whether it is one line or a custom shape, I just can't edit it after drawing it. I can't edit it at all and it doesn't appear on any layer. I can delete every single layer and the shape will still be there.

 

They are not paths, but just to double check I did look under paths but it is empty.

 

It doesn't matter what else I've done, or whether it is a new blank page I can't do anything with any shape once I've drawn it.

 

I can't get it to select it when I click show transform controls, I can't select it with the marquee tool and delete it (because it isn't on any layer) and I can't place anything over it to cover it.

 

I have to keep saving before drawing any shape and close and reopen the file if the shape doesn't go quite as I wanted first time. Obviously if I want anything over the shape in any way I can't do it.

 

What is causing this and how can I stop it happening?

 
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Aug 5, 2012 3:08 PM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    timeofthemoon wrote:

     

    For some reason after drawing shapes with the shape tool, whether it is one line or a custom shape, I just can't edit it after drawing it. I can't edit it at all and it doesn't appear on any layer. I can delete every single layer and the shape will still be there.

     

     

     

    I'm not fully understanding the situation. For a start, "every single layer" cannot be deleted; there must always be at least one layer in a Ps document.

     

     

     

    They are not paths, but just to double check I did look under paths but it is empty.

     

     

     

    Paths panel can be empty despite there being paths in the document. The path in a Vector Mask (a Shape Layer is really a Fill Layer with Vector Mask) is not listed unless the relevant layer is currently targeted. Only paths which are not in Vector Masks will be listed at all times.

     

    When a path is visible, it should be selectable with the Path Selection Tool and Direct Selection Tool.

     

    If you still have a problem then post a screenshot with a visible path in the document window and the Layers and Paths panels open.

     
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    Aug 5, 2012 9:10 PM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    Just quickly going over this, I am to beleive the option in the top tool bar has changed from shape to either path or raster. The path needs to be selected with the path tool to delete it and well raster images need to be selected with one of the selection tools or ctrl-a for select all, then deleted, or fill the layer with a color.

     
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    Aug 10, 2012 9:44 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    timeofthemoon wrote:

     

    Well I can delete all layers until it is a transparent background with no layers listed in the layers panel. And if you're not supposed to be able to do that I guess I have another problem lol. ...

     

     

    As far as I know, the only way no layer will be listed in the Layers panel is if filtering is excluding them all, but then the panel would say "No layers match the filter".

     

    Could this be a uniquely corrupt file or are you able to make other documents have no layer?

     

    If I'm wrong about Ps docs needing to have at least one layer then i'm sure someone will provide correction. Hopefully, they'll also know how to solve your problem.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 10, 2012 6:36 PM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    Could you please do a screen grab showing the situation where you have no layers, making sure to include the display of the Layers panel in it?

     

    Thanks.

     

    -Noel

     
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  • JJMack
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    Aug 11, 2012 3:30 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    By any chance are you using CS6.  In CS6 aobe made changes in the layer palett in the way shape layers are display and you can filter layer beinf displayed so some layer can be hidden on you. I'm goin to show some screen grabs using CS5 to show some thing there for layers can not hiddem and vector mask show.

     

    Note one shape layer right click in layers palette shows last layer can not be deleted and vector mask shows in path palette. Delete is grayed out

    llcs5.jpg

    cs61.jpg

    adding an empty on top becoms the acticive layer and shape 1 vector mask not shown in path palette.

    lotcs5.jpg

    cs62.jpg

     

    Layer Shape 1 in now deleatable

    isdel.jpg

    cs63.jpg

     

    using pen tool and targeting the vector mask the shape is editable

    canedit.jpg

    Have not found out how to edit vector mask I cant see to target in cs6

     

    You target by first using the path selection tool. I change the fill color to yellow so you can see the path better

    cs6edit.jpg

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 11, 2012 7:49 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    I think you have a system problem.  Something - possibly your display driver - is out of whack and corrupting the daylights out of Photoshop.  Photoshop CS6 just doesn't do what you have described by itself.

     

    Woud you be willing to go into Help - System Info..., copy what's there, paste it in a response here, edit out your serial number info, and post it?  That will show us what you have installed and maybe lead to some specific suggestions that could help avoid it happening again.

     

    -Noel

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 11, 2012 12:17 PM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    Downloading what program?  Photoshop?  What "said" you lost administrator rights?  Was there a specific message?  What did it say, and what were you doing when you saw it?

     

    Details matter with computers.

     

    Yes, wait until you get on the other computer and grab the system info.  It's possible that knowing your specific display driver version could lead to specific suggestions to help you get things working.

     

    -Noel

     
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  • JJMack
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    Aug 12, 2012 7:31 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    One more thought The shape tool can create Shape Layers, Paths and pain in Pixels on the current layer. If you doing the later anf the forground color is white and your current targer is a white background layer. These will be no new layer of path created.  It will just be white over whit you will have nothing.

    onemore.jpg

     
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  • JJMack
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    Aug 13, 2012 6:29 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    timeofthemoon wrote:

     

    it wasn't pixels that was selected, it was always shape. It wasn't white on white either. The shape was always a different colour to the background, I could see it at all times.

    If  you can see the layers palette and the paths palette and use the shape tool see the added shape on the image but see no shape layer added to the layer palette and see no path in the Path palette is sure look like Photoshop laying down pixels.  Have You tried resetting your Photoshop Preferences.  When ever Photoshop does not seem to be working correctly resetting your Photoshop preferences often corrects the problem.

    Before Using Shape tool

    BeforeShapeTool.jpg

    Using Shape in pixel mode

    UsingInPixel.jpg

    Commiting pixels

    Commitpixel.jpg

    Switching to Shape mode and using tool

    UsingShapeMode.jpg

    Committing shape not changed layers and path palette

    CommitShape.jpg

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 14, 2012 6:43 AM   in reply to timeofthemoon

    Bear in mind that glitches that seem to go away by themselves tend to come back by themselves.

     

    Do not fall into the trap of just moving on and ignoring them.  If you do that your computing experience can become an ongoing hell.

     

    On the other hand, if you wrestle each and every bug to the ground and either (ideally) fix it definitively or at least learn everything there is to know about it and find out how to work around it, your system will be stable and will be able to rely on your computing environment when it matters.

     

    I'm not saying you haven't been trying to do this - it's admirable that you and others worked so hard on it here.  My message is for others who might read this.

     

    I don't know whether your Photoshop trial experience left you likely to buy Photoshop CS6 or not - and I'm pretty sure they're not going to let you try it again when 13.0.1 comes out (in fact, they may not even update the trial download from 13.0.0).

     

    -Noel

     
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