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Dimensioning

Jan 23, 2009 12:28 PM

Does Illustrator CS added dimensions to drawings? Is there any fast way to add dimensions to a drawing?
 
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    Jan 23, 2009 1:28 PM   in reply to (Stan_J_Wisniewski)
    It sounds like that you are drawing a technical drawing of some sort. For something like a technical drawing, I always feel that it would be best for you to directly use autocad or another 3d cad program.
     
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    Jan 24, 2009 5:21 AM   in reply to (Stan_J_Wisniewski)
    Egads.

    > It sounds like that you are drawing a technical drawing of some sort. For something like a technical drawing, I always feel that it would be best for you to directly use autocad or another 3d cad program.

    Well, there you go, guys. Another blunderbuss piece of bad advice, based upon a defensive reaction to another glaring ommission in Illustrator's feature set. You're only supposed to use Autocad or another 3D CAD program for:

    Commercial product renderings.
    Illustrated parts breakdowns.
    Illustrations in technical manuals.
    Illustrations in how-to articles.
    Product instructions sheets.
    Maps.
    Real estate development brochures.
    Flow diagrams.
    Data charts.
    And worlds of other things that can be loosely referred to as "technical" illustration.

    Time to throw away all those tech-ish drawings in your project archives, and start responsibly turning down any new clients who make and/or sell something because you don't have Autocad or another 3D CAD program. I know I have at least a 4' horizontal file drawer full of "something like a technical drawing" project archives I can now trash.

    "I'm sorry, sir. We are a professional illustration and design house. You need to go to a mechanical engineering firm for your product brochure. However, should you ever need a nicely-done paper doily, here's my card. See? It's done with Illustrator's Blob and Eraser tools. Even has a Lens Flare in the corner...."

    I know that concept may seem commensurate with certain ommissions in Illustrator's tool set that are present in just about every other program in Illustrator's category (like simple dimension tools, user-defined ruler scales, connector lines, object dimensions without chronic rounding problems), but it's still an utterly ridiculous assertion.

    Of course, there are similarly obvious feature ommissions in Illustrator's loosey-goosey, artsy-tartsy feature set as well (a proper path cutting tool, auto-fitting text frames, radar and contour grads). So by the same logic any kind of artistically-sensitive work should be done in Xara Xtreme.

    Get with the program, people. Use the appropriate tools. Illustrator is for paper doilies. Just paper doilies. ;-)

    [Sorry, Isaac. Just kidding. But also had a point to make.]

    Stan,

    Illustrator's 20+ years development has neglected many basic generic features including basic dimension tools. If it's a frequent need, there are expensive aftermarket plug-in add-ons that can cost over half of Illustrator's price all over again. Or, you can buy a competitive side-grade to Corel Draw or Deneba Canvas for about the same cost and get a whole lot more in the deal to boot.

    If your need to dimension a few things is very basic and relatively infrequent, you might find useful the simple Javascript-based workaround I hacked out for my own purposes, which you can download here.

    It's crude and limited, but reduces the tedium for simple linear dimensions, compared to constructing them by hand. The script assumes a couple of Graphic Styles being present (included in the .zip), so be sure to read the included instructions.



    JET
     
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    Aug 10, 2012 5:54 PM   in reply to JETalmage

    JET,

    I have the dimensioning script that you so generously provided a long time ago. I'd like the ability to enlarge the arrowheads created with the script, but when I do that, they extend past the dimension lines. If there is a way to enlarge the arrowheads and still have the tips of the arrows touch the dimension lines, please let me know.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 4:55 AM   in reply to jay fresno

    Throughout Illustrator's history, besides the complete lack of simple dimension tools, its lame arrowheads feature provided only  a small handful of arrowhead designs, and even they could not be set to align to the ends of the path to which they were applied.

     

    It was not until CS4 that a half-baked "custom arrowhead" feature finally appeared, and its implementation (having to open a separate file in which the arrowheads are stored as symbols) is nothing but a sloppy hack job. Trying to make the new "custom arrowheads" properly align was a trial-and-error nightmare, as I demonstrated here right after the non-feature appeared.

     

    (All of Illustrator's handling of what should be application-level "libraries" functionality--Styles, Swatches, Symbols--is sub-standard compared to other drawing programs. They are really merely document-specific settings contained in ordinary documents saved as "templates"--which are nothing but ordinary files which open unnamed--that you have to import into your current working document, by one of the "Open Library" commands. That's why they're so cumbersome to work with.)

     

    The script was written prior to all that. It applies a Graphic Style which includes one of the basic arrowheads. It uses the only arrowhead among Illustrator's basic set that I consider proper-looking for dimensions. It then scales the length of the path an amount which I carefully calculated to compensate for that particular arrowhead's overhang. That's why the script is dependent upon a couple of Graphic Styles being present in the current document.

     

    So yeah, I could change the arrowhead that is included in the Graphic Style, and then edit the scaling value in the script to compensate for that particular arrowhead's overhang. But the script is what I said it is: a "despirate" workaround for another of Illustrator's archaic basic feature omissions, styled to my own liking for my own use.

     

    JET

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 7:49 AM   in reply to JETalmage

    Absolutely love the rant JET! Uncompromising and spot on as always!

     
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