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David C Anderson
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How can I place image across outside of booklet?

Aug 11, 2012 5:33 AM

I am currently engaged in my annual task of designing a 24 page A5 booklet using folded A4 paper. All the internal portrait mode A5 pages (pages 2 - 23) are monochrome and have been created in InDesign CS6, while the colour outer cover (pages 1 and 24) has been designed as a single landscape A4 page in Adobe Illustrator CS6. This allows graphic images to flow seamlessly between the front cover and the back cover.

 

My normal practice has been to print this booklet myself, using an inkjet printer for the colour content and a mono laser printer for everything else. I print directly from Illustrator for the double-spread outer cover and use InDesign's 'Print Booklet' facility for all the internal pages.

 

This year, I am seriously considering getting the booklet produced by a commercial printer, who would use a colour laser printer for the entire booklet. I therefore want to merge the Illustrator artwork into my Indesign file so that I can generate a single PDF for sending to the print shop.

 

I'm guessing that there is a simple way to import the cover artwork into InDesign but, so far, I have been unable to find a way to place a file across pages 1 and 24. Any help would be much appreciated.

 

David

 
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    Aug 11, 2012 5:39 AM   in reply to David C Anderson

    Place and position as you want it on page 1 (leaving the full frame), then copy and paste in place on page 24. Crop to the spine on both pages.

     

    OR

     

    Disable shuffling for the page 1 spread, then drag page 24 up next to in in the Pages panel and place the art once. If you do this, I'd move the last page to the back in the PDF after exporting.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 6:27 AM   in reply to David C Anderson

    Use a reputable printer and everything should be fine.

     

     

     

    Bob

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 7:23 AM   in reply to David C Anderson

    I think you maybe didn't catch, or don't understand the signifcance of "paste in place." if you copy and paste in place the x/y coordinates are identical and there will not be a misalignment.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 8:59 AM   in reply to David C Anderson

    David C Anderson wrote:

     

    In order for Paste in Place to work you have to get the required image on the Windows clipboard, so I used Photoshop to open and then copy the Tiff file I had previously exported from Illustrator. When I then used Paste in Place in InDesign the image was placed exactly where it was required on both the front and back pages. Magic!

    I don't know where that came from. You should copy the frame  where you placed the image from page 1 in the .indd file and paste in place in page 24.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 9:17 AM   in reply to David C Anderson

    Not sure if we cross-posted, but it sounds like your "more efficient" method is waht I was suggesting: Place > Adjust positioning if required > Copy Frame > Go to new page > Paste in place.

     

    page one ought to be the right side of the tiff unless your book reads right to left...

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 12:10 PM   in reply to David C Anderson

    If the artboard, or the art, is the size you want when you place, then all you need do show the import options and pick the appropriate crop option. Click the loaded cursor at the position of the upper left corner and release.

     

    In this case, it would actually be easier to start on the last page, since it's on the left and you can see the corner of the page or the upper left bleed guide, then do your copy/paste in place on page 1. The only reason I suggested starting with page 1 is that if you are using an image of some sort that is not perfectly fitted to the shape of your spread, or that needs to be cropped, I'd rather start onthe front cover as it's much more important to be sure positioning is perfect there than to worry if ther's an extra step.

     

    Copying and pasting from Illustrator is OK, but it increases the file size in ID, and it means you can't edit the art and update it in multiple places where you've used it.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 2:18 PM   in reply to David C Anderson

    This is a tiff? You said Illustrator, so I presumed it was vector. Same thing goes, though, as far as if it's the correct size, just place it at 100% by click and release at the upper left corner. Sounds like maybe it needs to be scaled.

     

    What's the image size and resolution in Photoshop?

     

    Linking is standard workflow. Once placed, when you copy and paste within ID you are copying and pasting the link, not the actual art.

     
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    Aug 11, 2012 3:08 PM   in reply to David C Anderson

    Yes. Just place the .ai file, or save it as a PDF and place that. If you export to tiff from Illy you rasterize the vector content.

     

    Is the pasteboard larger than the art that's on it?

     
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