Adobe Community: Issues using Shared Drive

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1. John T Smith,

Aug 9, 2012 2:04 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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Premiere and Premiere Elements do not work properly with a network

-http://forums.adobe.com/thread/771151

-http://forums.adobe.com/thread/851602

-a work around, of sorts http://forums.adobe.com/thread/957523

-and not on a "domain" http://forums.adobe.com/thread/858977

-also PreEl see #5 http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1017199

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2. Jim Simon,

Aug 9, 2012 6:06 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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Any thoughts about this?

Storing on a network is fine, but run the files from local disks only. Copy them over first.

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3. ECBowen,

Aug 10, 2012 11:54 AM in reply to kennymiracle

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How did you format the storage on the shared unit?

Eric

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4. kennymiracle,

Aug 10, 2012 1:03 PM in reply to ECBowen

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Jim - That's a good solution for the one-off files over 100GB, as long as I don't have to copy over all the footage I'm using (20TB+).

Eric - I didn't personally do it, but it's a 8-bay tower RAID5 Mac-formatted drive connected to a Mac Pro server via NAS. Then other Macs are connected using eithernet and AFP. Does any that answer your question?

Also, I'm going to do a test by switching from AFP to NFS to see if that solves some of the isuses.

Thanks guys!

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5. UlfLaursen,

Aug 10, 2012 1:08 PM in reply to Jim Simon

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I always copy from my shared storage to a local drive.

Ulf

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6. kennymiracle,

Aug 10, 2012 1:30 PM in reply to UlfLaursen

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Ulf - How does your workflow work with multiple editors and TBs of footage? Do you just have a lot of local storage, too?

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7. ECBowen,

Aug 10, 2012 1:55 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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Did they format the unit in HFS+ Journaled or Non Journaled?

Eric

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8. John T Smith,

Aug 10, 2012 2:13 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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>multiple editors and TBs of footage

I have NO idea of a brand to suggest, but I think you need some kind of network file manager, with a check out/in facility to make sure only ONE person is working on any given clip at any given time

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9. kennymiracle,

Aug 10, 2012 2:57 PM in reply to ECBowen

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Did they format the unit in HFS+ Journaled or Non Journaled?

Journaled

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10. Jim Simon,

Aug 10, 2012 3:03 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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as long as I don't have to copy over all the footage I'm using (20TB+).

Yup, all of it. Anything on the server you need to use in a project, copy it over first. It's the best way to guarantee smooth operation using PP at this time.

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11. ECBowen,

Aug 10, 2012 3:21 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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Jounaling adds meta-data to the table for the volume and that has significant performance hits. Also there are allot of applications now that have issues with Jounaling on volumes so I would suggest you move your data off that volume and re-format it Non Jounaled. Journaling does give you greater protection to recover a volume if you have corruption so there is a trade off. However a decent raid controller should have a good enough Integrity verification process to help prevent the need for that. Just make sure you have the parity or integrity verifications scheduled.

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12. UlfLaursen,

Aug 10, 2012 9:45 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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kennymiracle wrote:

Ulf - How does your workflow work with multiple editors and TBs of footage? Do you just have a lot of local storage, too?

Well, my projects are usualy not nat large, footage wise. The most of my projects are <250 GB so it is quite easy for me to move it from the server to my local working drive. I use shotputpro to offload my cards directly to the server from the same PC every time, and then I can draw the footage out on the others as I please, without touching the original files on the server.

My data localy is on a drive in a HDD-Tray. In this way it is easy for me to swap drives between PC's, and if the client at the end wants me to keep an editable project, I just copy everything to that drive, add the cost of the drive to the bill, and keep it.

This setup works quite good for me, but again, for larger projects with tons of footage, it might not.

/Ulf

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13. kennymiracle,

Aug 11, 2012 3:26 PM in reply to UlfLaursen

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Eric - Thanks I'll try that.

Jim/Ulf - I appreciate these tips. If this is the case, though, I'm going to have to completely re-evaluate my workflow. Starting work on a documentary with other editors, and we need shared media files.

Also, the guys at www.biscardicreative.com are using PrP successfully in a shared environment. Do you think they've just engineered their system in a way to make it work? They are telling me that they just can't have the same project open on two machines at once.

It's just odd hearing different things form different editors, but I may just not be connecting all the dots correctly...

Thanks,

Kenny

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14. Jim Simon,

Aug 11, 2012 10:59 PM in reply to kennymiracle

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Do you think they've just engineered their system in a way to make it work?

Well, Adobe sure hasn't done anything to make it easy yet. So if they got it working well, then someone on their team sure knows networking.

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15. Greg Baber,

Aug 13, 2012 11:11 AM in reply to Jim Simon

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There is a reason for this -- https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2586851?start=0&tstart=0

It is something that is a known issue with the way that Apple wants Adobe to use QuickTime. Using a SMB share will work, but AFP will give an error going to files over 2 GB.

And yes, we always recommend working on local files if you can. If you can't, you need to have a rock solid and fast network setup. It's related to the way that video files are processed. To build a video file you create the container then start filling in the video. If there is any type of interruption or slowing in the data flow, the file creation fails.

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