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Al Sparber

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Is Adobe Censoring Negative Reviews of its Features?

Aug 15, 2012 12:27 AM

What's interesting is that it was "rejected" 2 1/2 months after being posted. If the "moderator" has an ounce of courage, kindly contact me off-forum and I'd be happy to give you the names of a dozen highly respected experts who feel the same way I do. My dear Adobe moderator, Dreamweaver is a fine program, but like any program it has flaws. Criticism of those flaws should be faced maturely and used to improve the product in the future. If a critique is, in fact, wrong, it would be obvious and easy to rebut. It seems you are simply trying to sweep your flaws under the carpet. I'm hoping it is the work of a rogue volunteer moderator and not anyone of import at Adobe.

Got this in the mail today:

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You have received this email because the content you posted below has been rejected by our moderators.

Re: Fluid Grid Layout Browser Compatibility Issues

posted May 24, 2012 4:47 AM

The Fluid Grid Layout is not well-written. I really hate to say it, but

it's another well-intentioned feature that will wither on the vine. The

underlying architecture is flawed and the nature of CSS dictates not

only responsive design, but code updates that are responsive to changes

in browsers and/or bugs in browsers. Making an adaptive page is simply

too easy of a task for anyone willing to take a little time to learn.

Here is a quick example a did a few weeks ago. Interestingly, it was

playing with the Adobe Fluid Grid feature (and getting totally

frustrated with its flaws and complexities) that inspired me to do this

example

http://www.projectseven.com/csslab/adaptive/percentages.htm

Note: Although I believe the Adobe Fluid Gris feature is not good, I do

think the CS6 upgrade is a worthwhile one. I would really love to see

Adobe focusing on the core application rather than deviating into areas

where they have not demonstrated the commitment to keep a feature up to

date.

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Al Sparber - PVII

http://www.projectseven.com

The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets

Since 1998

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1. osgood_,

Aug 15, 2012 1:09 AM in reply to Al Sparber

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To be honest I can't understand why anyone would want to use the Adobe Fluid Grid as it is so easy to write your own media queries to address various device screens.

I tend to be of the opinion that you should at least explore how things work rather than relying on too much that is automated. I've never been a great fan of what I call the 'Adobe After Thoughts' - CSS Templates, Spry, and now the Fluid Grid. All seem unnecessarily complex and draconian.

I'm not sure if Adobe are ditching posts they feel 'downgrade' their products but if they are then a lot of mine would be assigned to the bin. I'm not a 'fully paid up' helper, or whatever they call themselves these days, who get FREE software so I can say what I want.

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2. David_Powers,

Aug 15, 2012 2:52 AM in reply to Al Sparber

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Al Sparber wrote:

Dreamweaver is a fine program, but like any program it has flaws. Criticism of those flaws should be faced maturely and used to improve the product in the future.
I agree.

I don't know who reported your post, nor who decided to delete it. I certainly would not have done so. Honest criticism, painful though it might be, should be respected for what it is.

I suspect the real problem might be the link to your website in your signature. Section 8 (r) of the revised Terms of Use bans the following: "Market any goods or services for any business purposes (including advertising and making offers to buy or sell goods or services), unless specifically allowed to do so by Adobe."

If that is, indeed, the reason for your post being removed, the moderator could simply have removed the link to your site and sent you a private message informing you why.

My understanding is that it's OK to link to a paid-for service or product if it's directly relevant to a question being asked. But it appears to be a grey area. Maybe a new moderator has become over-zealous.

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3. SnakEyez02,

Aug 15, 2012 6:34 AM in reply to David_Powers

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Note: Although I believe the Adobe Fluid Gris feature is not good, I do
think the CS6 upgrade is a worthwhile one. I would really love to see
Adobe focusing on the core application rather than deviating into areas
where they have not demonstrated the commitment to keep a feature up to
date.

Al,

I agree 100% with what you are saying here. And unfortunately, Adobe has not seen this from their end. However, I still believe it has a place, but the core of DW needs to be updated to take advantage of this. The point of adding in this feature is to make it easier for professionals to manage the document. To either make it faster, more efficient, or even provide a GUI to get setup faster. Currently there is no way to logically modify the CSS for the responsive design from what I see right now and that's my biggest complaint about it at this point.

Furthermore, I fear that the "CMS integration" of Wordpress, Drupal, and Joomla is no different than having Adobe staff try to support the .NET architecture. Not that I use it, but just because there are a lot of web professionals that do and the support is based on outside sources that Adobe has no control over or no involvement in as far as I am aware. And I don't know if you follow DW, but yesterday they announced that they are releasing the first major update to Dreamweaver, ONLY to Cloud subscribers, and it will be an upgrade to CSS transitions.

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