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Allow Free Distort like Photoshop

Jul 7, 2011 8:09 AM

In Photoshop, you can pull an image's control handles around to your heart's content, and fine tune the distortion to line up with a perspective grid. In Illustrator, you can only distort the bounding box of the whole shape, so once you move a single control handle, you lose control of one or more corners of the image, making precise distortions almost impossible. The best we have right now is the Effect > Distort & Transform > Free Distort tool, but there's no preview, so again, you can't line up the shape with a perspective grid.

 

Please make Illustrator's Free Distort tool like Photoshop's!

 
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    Jul 7, 2011 8:31 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    I second that. It's a glaring omission from the program.  (And, no, the new Perspective Tool is not a solution... that's just overkill.)

     
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    Jul 20, 2011 2:01 PM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    Absolutely agree.

     

    Can't Adobe's Photoshop team spend a few months working on Illustrator and make it more Photoshoppy?

     
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    Aug 16, 2011 8:33 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    I concur.

     

    And if the Illustrator team ever get around to evaluating their basic Path functionalities they might also drop the current stupid (yes, that adjective is provocative, but in my opinion justified) path-closing behaviour of eliminating the first point’s backward bezier handle.

     
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    Aug 16, 2011 12:15 PM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    I'm aware of it. I always have to adjust my first segment all over again if I close the path. Are you saying there's a way around it?

     
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    Aug 17, 2011 12:02 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt
    save for the annoying way it doesn't constrain the final bezier handle to the same angle of the first.

    I think what you describe might pretty much is what I meant; when one starts a path with a curve point that point’s backward handle is destroyed on closing the path and one has to drag out the complete handles for that point anew if one wants it to stay a curve point.

    Jeff Talmage has provided a Script for closing a path with maintaining the first point’s handle, but the Illustrator team really should just make that standard behaviour in my opinion.

     
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    Oct 25, 2011 10:00 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    There is a tedious but effective workaround: Copy and paste the object into Photoshop as a path, use the superior distortion tools there, and then export it back into Illustrator.

     
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    Jan 2, 2012 11:24 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    +1

     
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    Feb 9, 2012 8:53 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    How is it that the Illustrator team didn't make this possible? The free transform tool is virtually useless, and the perspective tool is too much of a hassle. It's a simple function. Take a stroll over to your friends in the Photoshop department and get them to walk you through it.

     
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    Feb 9, 2012 8:56 AM   in reply to gschreiber73

    I know, right?

     
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    Aug 8, 2012 1:59 PM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    To me this is a very infuriating problem. Not only is it something that is commonly needed, and would be extremely useful, but it is something that should've been a basic function since Illustrator Version 1. And when it was included there, it easily should've been FIXED in Version 2, etc. This should've been worked on long before adding symbols, and advanced gradient options, and so on. I love those things, but seriously guys: Basic path manipulation is first and foremost what Illustrator is about. And there is ZERO excuse for not having it. You can't say the technology or know how doesn't exist. As countless others have stated—to deaf ears, apparently—Photoshop's had this feature for years. And Photoshop isn't even a vector editor, and they do it right.

    Everytime a new version of Illustrator comes out I get my hopes up thinking this will be fixed, only to be let down. It's really disappointing.

    So please, stop the stupid bounding box from resetting after every adjustment!

     
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:50 AM   in reply to V Paul Smith Jr

    There are hundreds of things that should've been in Illustrator since version 1. There are also hundreds of things that should've been fixed in Illustrator version 2, 3, 4 and all the next. But it's too much of a hassle to spend time and resources to make your product better if people will still buy it no matter how awful and broken it is. Because there are no real alternatives anyway. Monopoly in all its "glory".

     
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    Aug 16, 2012 12:18 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    I've had my head down working with Illustrator for so long that I had no idea that Photoshop had better vector transformation tools than its supposedly vector-centric teammate!

     

    A long time ago I worked on the development of the product LetraStudio and the Illustrator plug-in Envelopes. (My - thoroughly microscopic - claim to fame is that I introduced the now-widespread word 'envelope' in a distortion context.) LetraStudio pioneered free distortion of vectors, and as a I recall both it and Envelopes had features which we have yet to see in Illustrator. Nonetheless I was delighted when Illustrator adopted 'enveloping' - imitation, sincere flattery and so on.

     

    To find, after all this time, that Illustrator has to look to its bitmap stablemate for a better implementation of LetraStudio's idea is frankly shocking. I imagine most of the development teams in Adobe, perhaps especially Illustrator's, must be tired of seeing the bulk of interest and resources disappear in the direction of Photoshop. Of course Photoshop is an important product (the only software product name to have become a verb?). But the next release of Illustrator will be time to correct this embarrassing and shameful imbalance.

     
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    Dec 22, 2012 10:55 PM   in reply to David_Entwistle

    Bump.

     

    Same product since CS1 reskinned every year.

     

    Considering that the future of graphics design is 100% vector considering the wide range of resolutions for which support is required (TVs, tablets, retina vs standard) this is utter ********.

     
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    Apr 10, 2013 9:35 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    This is a huge omission.  are there any third party plugins that will make this all the distortion tools available in photoshop to be available in Illustrator?

     
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    Jun 8, 2013 10:27 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    Joining the chorus of laments - I really really need this particular feature, and implore Adobe to revamp Illustrator's free distortion to work as effectively as Photoshop's

     
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    Jun 8, 2013 11:27 AM   in reply to adamdougt

    The sad thing is, even if they do fix it, you'll have to pay $50/month to be able to use it. No new features coming to Creative Suite apps without a subscription to Creative Cloud.

     
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    Jun 9, 2013 8:27 AM   in reply to KrisHunt

    What a regrettable move on Adobe’s part.

     
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    Oct 13, 2013 5:18 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    I found this thread looking for answers as to why the distortion in Illustrator is basically unuseable. I'm very disappointed to see that it isn't something I'm doing wrong but I am glad to see everyone agrees that it's such a sorry state of affairs at least. The pathetic mini 'preview' you are forced to use to try and make a vague guess about distortion effects is archaic and unacceptable - it's so small and you can't zoom in, you can't use guides to help, you can't constrain any proportions there's no undo/step back available to tweak it and you can't even reference your artboard to see how it's going to look. I simply can't believe that the industry-standard program for precise vector manipulation continually fails to match up to Photoshop's ways of doing things in many areas when common-sense would suggest that it would be completely the other way around! Doesn't make any sense at all. It's about time Adobe pulled their finger out and radically revised Illustrator.

     
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    Dec 12, 2013 2:31 PM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    Kris_Hunt wrote:

     

    In Photoshop, you can pull an image's control handles around to your heart's content, and fine tune the distortion to line up with a perspective grid. In Illustrator, you can only distort the bounding box of the whole shape, so once you move a single control handle, you lose control of one or more corners of the image, making precise distortions almost impossible. The best we have right now is the Effect > Distort & Transform > Free Distort tool, but there's no preview, so again, you can't line up the shape with a perspective grid.

     

    Please make Illustrator's Free Distort tool like Photoshop's!

     

    There is a free distort tool in illustrator.

     

    The free transform tool can be used to distort (without using the Effects menu) - http://help.adobe.com/en_US/illustrator/cs/using/WS714a382cdf7d304e7e0 7d0100196cbc5f-647aa.html#WS714a382cdf7d304e7e07d0100196cbc5f-6479a

     

    Scroll down to the portion that says Distort and read the whole thing. It takes a second to understand, but it works really well!!!

     
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    Dec 12, 2013 2:58 PM   in reply to cacoonradt3M

    No, it's not the same thing. Illustrator's distort is not like Photoshop's distort. You should read the entire post.

     
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    Dec 12, 2013 6:46 PM   in reply to cacoonradt3M

    Yes, like KrisHunt said: Not the same thing…read the entire post.

     

    This is one of the lamest shortcomings in Illutrator. It's frustrated me for yeeeeeeaars.

     
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    Jan 18, 2014 12:48 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    Yes! Yes! Yes!

     
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    Jan 18, 2014 1:39 AM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    The behavior of this tool do not you just surprising. It reminds Paint program than a program for graphics work.

     

     

    GIF ANIM:

    Ai-freetransform.gif

     

      Perhaps, it is worth adding to the options icon Mesh Tool?

    Then you could use the existing options for WRAP needed distortion, provided that you add a new option to wrap "straight lines". need for such distortion or something similar?

    Ai-freetransform-wrap.jpg

     

    Generally tools illustrator often resemble running the maze, or something similar....

     

    and nothing has changed over the years. with the exception of 17.1

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3024857#3024857

     
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    Apr 2, 2014 3:15 PM   in reply to Kris_Hunt

    This thread's been open for nearly 3 years and not once has anyone from Adobe so much has acknowledged it. Really makes you want to fork over £50 a month for this crap, doesn't it?

     
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    Apr 2, 2014 11:42 PM   in reply to mave1969

    The Illustrator team members do not seem to consider participation in these user-to-user Fora beneficial, I guess.

     

    This thread is but a Feature Request, when it comes to ignoring Bug Reports and maintaining a bug for seven versions … well, doesn’t that almost seem something of an achievement?

    http://forums.adobe.com/message/1255376#1255376

     
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    Apr 3, 2014 2:39 AM   in reply to c.pfaffenbichler

    It's almost as good as Illustrator's continuing inability to draw a live artwork update while resizing an object beyond the bounds of the window so that it causes a scroll action. Instead we just get the edge-most 50 pixels or so endlessly repeated until the drag is complete.

    On a piece of professional software with a price tag to match, I don't think I'm overreacting when I say it's a f*cking disgrace.

     
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