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Problem with Flattened File - CS6 and OSX 10.8

Aug 19, 2012 6:45 AM

Tags: #osx #merge #cs6 #blend #modes #flattening #flattening_image #10.8

I am experiencing a problem with a layered file.  I’m using CS6 and OSX 10.8.  I imported a RAW file into PS and edited by adding about a dozen layers, including some groups.  One of the groups consists of several black layers where I added noise and used blend modes to create a background effect for a portrait of a girl (with a silo mask).  The group’s mode is “normal”.  When I saved as a layered TIFF into LR4, the background changes dramatically (heavy noise, compared to very light noise in the original).  The same effect results if I flatten or merge the layers in PS. (Saving as PSD has same result.)

 

I read one post with a similar problem and “Mike” (forgot name) suggested saving to a drive and opening the file while depressing alt/shift.  Doing so worked for preview mode only.  If I did so using PS, it didn’t work.  (Not a great work around with a large number of files.)  I never experienced this behavior where a file looked one way in PS and dramatically different when flattened or brought back into LR as a layered file. Any suggestions?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

David

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  • Noel Carboni
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    1. Noel Carboni,
    Aug 19, 2012 8:26 AM   in reply to SVA_David
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    Always view and judge your effects and layer mixing at 100% zoom, as at zoomed-out sizes they are just done as a speed-optimized estimation, and in some conditions it can be very wrong.

     

    Can you please post screen grabs showing the differences?  Perhaps someone could be able to confirm what I've said, or see whether you have some other issue.

     

    -Noel

     
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    2. SVA_David,
    Aug 19, 2012 9:48 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni
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    Thanks, Noel.  I do see the difference at 100% zoom and  zoomed-out.  I  never experienced this before in all of my retouching, although I don't usually add black bacground with noise using hard mix and other blend modes.  Here is layered and flattened.  It may be difficult to see the differences. 

    Screen Shot - Layered.png

    Screen Shot - Flattened.png

     
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    Aug 19, 2012 10:15 AM   in reply to SVA_David
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    I can clearly see the differences...  I was hoping you'd capture all of your screen, including the Layers panel et. al.

     

    You're seeing it look different in Photoshop after having flattened it?  Are you saving it with a color profile?  Can you screen grab the Save As dialog?

     

    Did I understand you to say that the bottom-most layer is not set to Normal blending?

     

    This is weird.  Normally one does not see a difference like that, and outside a possible glitch in your workflow the only other thing that comes to mind is that perhaps resetting all of Photoshop's preferences could clear it up.

     

    -Noel

     
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    4. SVA_David,
    Aug 19, 2012 10:33 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni
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    Below is a screen grab of the entire layered image.  Since I'm making fast work of this one, I haven't named all of my layers, which I would normally do for important work.  As you requested, I also attach a screen grab of the Save as.  The bottom layer is the original file and is set to normal blending.  FYI, I just installed CS6 about one week ago and have it on a new drive. The first install had problems, because I copied components from CS5.  On my second try, I minimized that.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-08-19 at 1.32.28 PM.png

     

    Screen Shot 2012-08-19 at 1.23.39 PM.png

     
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    Aug 19, 2012 10:34 AM   in reply to SVA_David
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    I could not copy the entire image, since it was too large.  I just grabbed the layer stack.

     
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    Aug 19, 2012 10:52 AM   in reply to SVA_David
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    You're saving the image with the ProPhoto RGB color profile.  Are you subsequently viewing it in a color-managed application?  I don't have Lightroom so I can't advise you on specifics to check, but it's important that whatever application is being used to view/handle the image be fully color-managed, or the gamma and color differences between ProPhoto RGB and your monitor profile will make it look quite different.

     

    I will be away from my office for a little while at this point, so I invite others to jump in and offer advice here.

     

    -Noel

     
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    7. SVA_David,
    Aug 19, 2012 11:09 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni
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    Thanks.  I don't think it's a color management issue.  I think the zoom function was revealing.  Thanks for your input.

     
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