I am such a packrat.
I found the entire collection of the Spring 2004 videos created for the Wrigley Video Productions web site's contest tucked away in a ZIP file on an old 160G drive in a box in the closet. I was looking for something else. But what a way to waste a couple of hours!
Should I put them up where everyone can get them if they want them? Does anyone really care? I think I have enough drive space and download limits to handle it. Let me know. Zipped up it is about 230MB. A size that used to be enormous, but is now pretty easy to deal with. We had 60 seconds as I recall but I don't remember the rest of the rules.
It makes me wonder if I have the collection from the Adobe Forums Reel Festival and Competition from 2003. You old folks out there want to have some fun, look at the names on this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/388868
Takes you back, doesn't it?
OK, what the heck. Might as well. There can be found here: http://videos.stevengotz.com/Wrigley_Video/
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Who you calling old folks?
But it does take me back. Was it really more fun then, or just the rose-colored glasses looking back?
Steven L. Gotz wrote:
You old folks out there want to have some fun, look at the names on this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/388868
Takes you back, doesn't it?
I was out of the loop on that one. I read "Wrigley" and imagined it was a contest for creating a Wrigley's Spearmint Gum TV commercial. That was until I went to the server and started watching videos. In 2003 people were using Premiere 6.5. Some even used the Matrox RT.X 100. Crash city, at least in my experience.
I started with Premiere 6.0 and I used a Canopus DVStorm (now Grass Valley). It was so nice to be able to output to an external monitor (small television in my case) and I also used it to convert VHS to DV AVI (but with the Canopus codec, as I recall). I was lucky I was able to sell mine to a fellow who had one fail on him so he knew the value and paid a decent price without a hassle.
Curt Wrigley was one of the very first Premiere users to post free tutorials on his web site. Back then bandwidth was darned expensive. It seems funny now, because I just recently decided to pay an extra $48 per year to go from 1,000MB to 100,000MB of storage, and from 20GB per month to 1000GB per month for downloads. Plenty of space and bandwidth now that videos are mostly posted on Vimeo and YouTube for free. In HD for goodness sake.
When Curt needed more space, I believe I remember him saying that the costs were enormous and that nobody he dealt with could handle his download requirements for the posted prices.
Curt is one of the reasons I was able to learn Premiere. He, and Darcy (the first moderator along with Jerry, who we just knew as JerryK back then) answered questions and guided me along.
Jeff Bellune was the first of us to really get into Encore. And our Aussie friend KingLeonard (Leonard King) was fun to be around here in the lounge.
I used to spend hours and hours and hours around here. I'll tell you, it is fun to be back. I see a lot of old friends, but I miss some of the originals. Curt is a rare bird around here, haven't seen johnbmx4christ, or Mitchell Lerman, or Darcy for that matter. It would be fun to hear from some of the folks from 2003 to 2007 or so, when I was really active.
When I first signed on, I didn't know what I was getting into so I used my initials and an exclamation mark for my user name (SLG!) which now just shows up on old posts as "Guest". When I started my web site and could not find an available name having anything to do with video editing, I just used http://www.stevengotz.com - so it seems a little silly to keep using my initials. I finally changed to my real name as a user name somewhere around 2003 I think.
Steven,
I don't have time to engage here, but I lurk. You were a BIG infulence back then. I remember when you first got the Sony FX1, so I immediatly went out and got one also. (I still use and love it) (Do you remember when you went to Greece, I invented a time machine here, changed history, and you were no longer President of the U.S. in THIS universe?)
I learned much from you, and Curt's instructional videos. I downloaded all of Curt's videos, I still have them on a hard drive, which is sitting in a drawer.
I miss Craig's wit.
Dag was hilarious (How many times did the King or Jerry admonish his posts?)
I must admit, even Mobutu's posts were intertaining.
Times change and I miss the olden days. Good to see you back.
I must admit, even Mobutu's posts were [e]ntertaining.
Okay, you know, a few months back I was talking about something and someone said something to me that I didn't understand and it sounded like they said "mobutu." I had a sudden, halting deja vu moment. Thinking about it later that day, I wondered "mobutu....mobutu....why would I have just made that word up?" Later still, I somewhat remembered "I think that was some troll I used to mess with in a forum somewhere..."
So now at least I know I didn't just make it all up in my head. Hard to believe how long ago THAT was. Wonder what happened to him? If we say his name 3 times does he show up?
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Actually, the truth is less interesting. You see, Adobe required at least four characters for a screen name and I only have one middle name, not being a Christian raised in a church where people like my late father-in-law had three.
So, since SLG needed a little something added, I figured a punctuation mark would do the trick. Why an exclamation mark? Why not? A question mark seems appropriate, I suppose, but SLG! was what I came up with at the time.
Hey! It is better than Mobutu - a rather evil dictator. ![]()
Steven
Steven L. Gotz wrote:
I am such a packrat.
I found the entire collection of the Spring 2004 videos created for the Wrigley Video Productions web site's contest tucked away in a ZIP file on an old 160G drive in a box in the closet. I was looking for something else. But what a way to waste a couple of hours!
Should I put them up where everyone can get them if they want them? Does anyone really care? I think I have enough drive space and download limits to handle it. Let me know. Zipped up it is about 230MB. A size that used to be enormous, but is now pretty easy to deal with. We had 60 seconds as I recall but I don't remember the rest of the rules.
It makes me wonder if I have the collection from the Adobe Forums Reel Festival and Competition from 2003. You old folks out there want to have some fun, look at the names on this thread:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/388868
Takes you back, doesn't it?
OK, what the heck. Might as well. There can be found here: http://videos.stevengotz.com/Wrigley_Video/
Message was edited by: Steven L. Gotz
I remember his tutorials too from back then, they were awesome and great. I had the Pinnacle DV 500 and Premiere 5.1 and 6.0 - boy I made a lot of VHS copies back then ![]()
/Ulf
Hi Steven!
Wow I remenber you, I too was sad to hear that Wrigley video had closed.
Infact I had only found this post by trying to find information about why the Wrigley video site wasn't there when I went looking for it. I remember the days of recording tutorials at five frames a second just to keep the size of the downloads low for those of us gasp STILL ON DIAL UP!
Ohh man...
My username on that forum was either Steve-k or MrVestek I can't actually quite remember at this stage but I used to run www.stevetrek.com before my own hosting costs got to be a little too much. I mainly did Star Trek effects or at least tried to recreate the effects seen in many popular tv shows at the time.
My big project that never ended up happening Quantum Geek, the trailer for it is still on YouTube here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgySx8xLwWg&feature=plcp
It's hard to believe that this was nearly 8 years ago or so.
I remember some of the old characters too like phansen etc.
How have you been man? Are you on Facebook, Twitter or YouTube by any chance?
To think I find this at a time when I'm considering doing another video tutorial website.
I still have my web site, although I am in the middle of a complete redesign. I am using Adobe Muse to set it up, but since Muse doesn't have the ability to have tables, I will be finishing up in Dreamweaver.
It takes a while to come up with a design that works for me. I try this and that, then make changes. It is tough. I will be adding some Google ads. I hate to do it, but the income from my Lynda.com tutorials from 2004 has dropped to almost below the costs of the site upkeep. If I can keep the ads to Adobe products, cameras, and other things that people who visit my site might actually be interested in, I don't suppose it will be too bad.
My wife looked over my shoulder while I was doing something and comented on how the ads on the web page I was on all seemed to be directed specifically at me. If I can achieve that, then it's all good.
If you decide to produce some tutorials, let me know. If you do a good job on them I would be happy to post a link.
I have to laugh a bit. Quantum Leap and Star Trek are not exactly what the young folks want to recreate anymore. Times have changed. Thank God for 1920X1080 video tutorials with zero cost of hosting via Vimeo or YouTube. Well, I pay Vimeo a bit so I can watch movies on my Smartphone, but not anything like bandwidth used to cost.
Wow; this brings back memories. Great to see some of the "oldies" still hanging out here.
I havnt been in these parts for quite a while. Just popped in tonight to see whats goin on around here and am shocked to see a mention of me after all these years!
Those Premiere 6 days were a blast with the 3rd party accelration cards from matrox and canopus. Things have certainly changed. Yes; it did cost me a small fortune for a host that allowed that much video streaming. In those days bandwidth was precious. Now any yahoo can just upload vids to youtube for free!
After Wrigley Video closed down; I wrote a couple books at Adobe's invitation and a couple other adobe technical projects. I'm afraid my expertise eneded with CS5.
My life has taken me in a different direction now so I dont do much work in video editing any longer. But I do stop in every few months to see was going on at adobe; and more importantly: The video lounge.
Curt
You'll notice that Steven has returned after a long hiatus. Dag has popped in occasionally as well. Maybe we should throw an "Old Farts Only" party and stock the fridge with Geritol and Prune Juice instead of beer. Do you think I'll be able to eat the chips? I just switched to new Super PoliGrip. And no salsa, either. It gives me gas.
Jeff
Curt, you were a hero around here. A legend. You not only answered questions, you created tutorials to help people.
It was a lot harder back then, but you did it. Hopefully the work for Adobe paid off, and made up for the costs of the web site. I remember discussions about how to get enough bandwidth at a price you could afford. And how companies promised one thing, but only delivered another.
You are certainly missed, and still widely respected.
You never know. I stopped at CS3 and came back at CS6. I am waiting for the delivery of a new camera to shoot proper 1080p (no more HDV for me) - a DSLR. Who would ever have thought that a camera that took picures would be used to shoot video. Times have changed. Maybe you will get nostalgic, upgrade everything, start shooting again and realize you miss hanging out around here!
-- Steven
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