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Lightroom 4 crashes on import

Aug 18, 2012 11:54 AM

Tags: #lightroom #crash #import #4 #4.1

Windows 7, Home Edition, version 6.1 service pack 1

Intel 7, with more than 400gb memory available

 

I've now spent more than 32 hours trying to solve this problem, including two phone calls and three chat sessions with Adobe Help Desk.  The Help desk takes me through the same checklist of "fixes" as the previous calls and inquiries and has resulted only in wasting more hours of my time. 

 

To date I have tried the following to fix this issue:

 

- uninstall and reinstall with and without the LR 4.1 update

- create a new administrator account on my machine and run LR off the new account instead

- create a new catalogue for every import (which kind of defeates the purpose of having LR to begin with)

- wipe out my old preferences file and allow LR to create a new one

- completely wipe my hard drive and reinstall EVERYTHING all over again

- rebuild my catalogues from scratch on a new, fresh install of lightroom

- limit my cache size in LR preferences

- limit my backups in LR preferences

- change my 1:1 previews

- attempt to import images from a Nikon 90, D3s and D800 only, each on a fresh LR install (in an effort to see if it was a particular camera model causing the issue)

- attempted to only import directly from another hard drive, rather than an external or internal card reader

 

Each time I have no more than a day of proper working conditions before the program hangs up and windows pops up a warning that the program has ceased to respond and must close.  Lightroom is rather useless if I can not import images.

 

I'm out of solutions or fixes, and out of patience now too.  I'd really like to continue using Lightroom products because of how integral it is to my workflow.  At this point I'm ready to switch to a competitor if this issue can not be solved.

 
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  • Victoria Bampton
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    Aug 19, 2012 12:13 PM   in reply to Call_me_frustrated_kat

    Oh dear, you have had a time of it!  So sorry to hear that!

     

    One thing you didn't mention - what else is plugged into the computer?  Any phones or tablet pc's nearby?  Networks drives?  Cloud storage?

     

    Is it only at import that it hangs?  Does it hang with the Import dialog open or at what stage?  Is the Import dialog populated with previews?

     

    And it's hanging when you're importing from the hard drive too?

     
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    Aug 20, 2012 9:39 AM   in reply to Call_me_frustrated_kat

    Call_me_frustrated_kat wrote:

     

    If I wipe out my preferences and completely rebuild the catalogue, I can sometimes get a full day of use out of the program before it hangs again.

     

    Ok, what changes just before it stops working, after it's been working all day?  Or what might you have been doing before it stops working?  If you reboot at that point, does it help?  There has to be something - a conflict with something.  Is it often the same time of day?  Is your computer on a network?  I realise we're clutching at straws here, but it looks like the tech's already ruled out most of the likely issues.

     
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    Aug 20, 2012 5:34 PM   in reply to Call_me_frustrated_kat

    Hi Kat,

     

    Since you're running into this issue with Lightroom crashing on import in Windows,

     

    can you provide me with crash reports to send to the team so we can investigate further the cause of the crashes?

     

    Click this link: http://bit.ly/NgcMBH

     

    This will direct you to a secure page with a direct download link to a zip file.

    Download the .zip file and extract it to its own folder.

     

    Follow the directions in the Readme.exe included in the .zip

     

    Email the crash dumps you get to petgreen (at) adobe (dot) com in the bug report.

    Let me know what you can do!

    Thanks

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 1:08 PM   in reply to Pete.Green

    Kat,

     

    I've sent you an email directly in addition to this response.

    We've worked with one user directly -- http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lightroom_4_cras hes_on_importing_files#topic_3813877

     

    He uninstalled his USB controllers from device manager in windows 7, as well as uninstalling his USB hubs from device manager.


    Rebooted computer, allowed windows to reinstall the drivers, then LR was able to import with success several times, when it wasn't working at all even once.

     

    See if you can try something similar with your setup and let us know how it goes

    Thanks!

    Pete

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 12:54 PM   in reply to Call_me_frustrated_kat

    Did you run the EnableCrashDumps.reg first?

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 6:44 AM   in reply to Pete.Green

    I am having the same issue with Lightroom 4.1. I tried upgrading to 4.2 RC1, but the error repeats. I have some crash dumps to send, where to I send them to? Would appreciate any help.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 10:16 AM   in reply to ajgnet

    Hi Darknesis,

     

    Can you try some of the suggestions above like reinstalling your usb hubs if you have any?

    Uninstall them from the device manager, then reboot, then try the import again.

     

    Let us know how that goes.

    If you're still crashing after that, you can send the crash dumps to me: Email the crash dumps you get to petgreen (at) adobe (dot) com in the bug report.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 10:20 AM   in reply to Pete.Green

    Peter -- I went through the dumps myself and found the error. My external drive retained some of the file permissions from the previous version of Windows. When Lightroom was importing the images, it encountered a read error because it didn't have adequate permissions to read some of the images.

     

    To resolve this I did:

    1. Right-clicked my images folder

    2. Security tab

    3. Clicked "Advanced"

    4. Changed the "owner" to myself

    5. Clicked OK and waited for all the ownership permissions to be reset

    6. Clicked OK again to exit properties

    7. Re-imported the images without error.

     

    Lightroom should probably prompt an error for this instead of crashing

     
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:50 AM   in reply to ajgnet

    I'm having the exact same issues with Lightroom!!!!  I'm getting so frustrated!  I'm using a PC with Windows 7 and using Lightroom version 4.2 64-bit.  About 2 months ago, Windows went through a large series of updates and, since then, Lightroom has been "not responding" on imports.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled the program numerous times and it will work flawlessly for a couple of days and then starts acting up again.  I'm really getting tired of it and there doesn't seem to be a solution for it...according to this messsage?!  HELP!

     
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    Nov 8, 2012 11:30 AM   in reply to DornickDesigns

    My suggestions above have worked for several people. Have you tried the suggestions in this thread yet?

     

    Try uninstalling your USB hubs from the device manager and reboot so they get reinstalled. See if that helps.

    Let us know.

     
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    Nov 21, 2012 12:53 PM   in reply to Victoria Bampton

    I'm a long time mac user. Just installed it on Win7 64 bit. Crashes to the point that nothing else will work on the box. Brand new windows machine, lots of memory. Sad.

     
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    Nov 21, 2012 1:29 PM   in reply to wickendenstreet

    Have you tried any of the above suggestions yet wickedenstreet?

     
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    Nov 21, 2012 1:34 PM   in reply to Pete.Green

    The link above wasn't working. I was able to import, and now it just stops responding to input, not only on Lightroom, but I can't even shut windows down (I can log out is all).

    I've got no hubs or anything.

     
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    Apr 27, 2013 8:41 AM   in reply to Call_me_frustrated_kat

    I have this LR4 freezing problem. I'm just coming to the last 10 days of the trial period on Windows 8 64bit, and I was seriously considering buying it to complement PS Elements. However, in the last week, it has begun to freeze up for minutes on end when I make some mouse or keyboard input. The whole LR4 application locks solid, I can't minimize it, move it on screen, or close it. If I wait, sometimes up to 10 mins, it usually comes back to life, often only to freeze a short while later (sometimes on next mouse use). If I don't feel like waiting indefinitely, I have to kill it with Taskmaster. The rest of the computer's applications are unaffected, and neither CPU nor memory appears to be under any load (there's 12 GB RAM, so no shortage).

     

    When this problem first started, I uninstalled LR4, cleaned the registry, and rebooted before reinstalling it. I also took ownership of my image folders. The new installation froze as I was selecting folders to import for the first time, unfroze after a couple of minutes, then froze again when I tried to look at the application settings/preferences. I don't feel inclined to risk messing up my USB devices (mouse, keyboard, touch pad, bluetooth, iPod, Android, camera, memory stick, etc.) by uninstalling my USB hubs or drivers. Adobe should be able to write software to handle such things, and multi-threading should allow the main application to run effectively regardless of such external hardware IO access.

     

    There's no point my purchasing this application as it is, although I liked it when it was working. It would be nice to have some indication whether Adobe is working on a fix for this problem, and if so, when it is likely to be available. Otherwise, I'll spend my money elsewhere.

     
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    Apr 30, 2013 7:21 PM   in reply to Dave Lorde

    Hi Dave lorde,

     

    Do you get an error dialog for Lightroom crashing?

    Also which version of Lightroom are you using? Have you tried with Lightroom 4.4 yet?

    You might also try downloading the Lightroom 5 beta that is available now on labs.adobe.com and see how it works on your system there.

     

    As for the current issues, my suggestions are as follows:

     

    0. Make sure you're up to date with LR 4.4 or LR5 beta

     

    1. Take a look through our performance optimization documents for Lightroom and see if any of these suggestions give you something to work with:

     

    Optimize LR performance

    http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/optimize-performance-lightroom.htm l

     

    Performance Hints

    http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/performance-hints.html

     

    2. Try resetting Lightroom's preferences: http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/recover-catalog-images-resetting-l ightrooms.html#id_90046

     

    3. Try Lightroom in a new administrator user to see if the hangs continue.

     

    Let us know how it goes,

    regards,

    Pete

     
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    May 1, 2013 4:24 AM   in reply to Pete.Green

    Hi Pete,

     

    The problem wasn't crashing as such, but hanging unresponsive for arbitrarily long periods. If left long enough, it would recover.

    The version was Lightroom 4.4.

    I tried all the sensible suggestions on the knowledgebase.

     

    However, the problem now appears to be solved.

     

    It turns out that a rogue Intel Rapid Storage Technology (SATA) service was leaking memory, and was using up to 2GB of working RAM. My Dell PC has 12GB of RAM, so overall RAM levels didn't seem to be a problem. However, since I have replaced this rogue service with an updated version, Lightroom no longer hangs. I don't know why only Lightroom would become so totally unresponsive (I could run Photoshop Elements and other memory-hungry or memory intensive programs normally), but Lightroom does seem to be particularly sensitive to this. Maybe it needs large amounts of contiguous memory, I don't know. It may be a Windows 8 memory management peculiarity.

     

    So my particular Lightroom problem is now resolved, and there is a useful lesson that Lightroom may suffer serious hang problems when other memory hogs are running - even if there is apparently plenty of free memory available.

     

    So thanks for the assistance.

     
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