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Photoshop Elements 10 Organizer not writing metadata to files

Aug 20, 2012 9:02 PM

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Trying to use Photoshop Elements 10 Organizer to update date taken and add tags to picture files.   Organizer is supposed to write/update the original file properties with this updated/new metadata, however, it seems to be pretty haphazard.   I've tried selecting pictures and using the menu option to "Write keyword tag and properties info to photo" (CRTL + W).   It processes and states it is updating the files, however, after it completes, you can access the source file in Windows Explorer and view properties but none of the changes (date info or tags) has been updated in the file.

 

Adobe support has been not been helpful simply pointing me to a knowledge article on metadata which basically tells you to use the same commands I'm already performing.   Posting here to see if anyone has other suggestions.

785 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: Andromeda14, Oct 25, 2012 2:37 AM
 
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  • photodrawken
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    1. photodrawken,
    Aug 20, 2012 10:50 PM   in reply to JMDhusky1991
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    What is the file type of the images that do not show updated properties info?  PNG files do not support the metadata needed to store tags.

     

    Ken

     
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    2. Brett N,
    Aug 20, 2012 10:54 PM   in reply to JMDhusky1991
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    The tags are there, it's just that Windows Explorer and it's properties dialog don't report them. This is a common issue for Windows. If you download and run your image files through an EXIF viewer or another application that properly reads and reports metadata, you'll see your tags there.

     
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    3. photodrawken,
    Aug 20, 2012 11:48 PM   in reply to Brett N
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    No, Windows Explorer displays the tags just fine -- PSE's Organizer writes the keyword tags to the IPTC section of the metadata, in the "keywords" item.  Windows Explorer shows the contents of that IPTC "keywords" item without problem.

     

    So, for the Organizer's keyword tags, it's neither "Windows Explorer not reporting them", nor is it "a common issue for Windows".

     

    Ken

     
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  • JMDhusky1991
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    4. JMDhusky1991,
    Aug 22, 2012 8:47 AM   in reply to photodrawken
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    The files were all jpegs.   The issue is 2 fold:

     

    1) The writing of tags seems to take several tries before the tags are reflected in Windows Explorer file properties

    2) The updating of date information, specifically date taken, takes either several tries or doesn't update at all

     

    Can you elaborate more on your comment of using a "EXIF viewer".    I've also tried using a couple other organizing apps including Picasa and the metadata and date information didn't show.

     
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  • Brett N
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    5. Brett N,
    Aug 22, 2012 12:18 PM   in reply to JMDhusky1991
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    EXIF is "Exchangeable image file format", a type of metadata for images and other media files. An EXIF viewer is an application that lets you read the EXIF metadata from a file. Just do an internet search and you will find hundreds of them available for free. I use one called EXIFTool.

     

    I know that I can see keywords on files that do not show up in Windows Explorer (or Properties) that do show up in an EXIF viewer.

     
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    Oct 25, 2012 2:37 AM   in reply to JMDhusky1991
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    Hey,

    There are various date/time fields shown in properties panel in Organizer. The dates mentioned in general section are read from OS whereas the dates in EXIF field are read from image's EXIF data. In EXIF data there are three date/time fields-

    1. Date time- This date/time info shows date modified of EXIF properties. So when you are writing a tag into imags's IPTC, you are doing some change in EXIF data. Hence this date should change to date when you are writing a tag into IPTC.

    2. Date time original - Represents date time when a image was shoot.

    3. Date digitized - Represents the date when the image was digitized (in digital camers there is hardly some delay between an image is shoot and it is digitized. So this field is always same as date original).

     

    So, in your scenario, Date time in EXIF should change whenever you are writing any tag into its IPTC.

    Please let me know if you need more info on it.

     

    ~Andromeda

     
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